Ben / Roger,
I can only take a guess that they set the logic up so that the entry
"@domainname.com" would by default block that domain and every subdomain
below it. If you wanted to let subdomains through, you would have to
explicitly block the ones you don't want through. For example:
1. There is 1 primary domain and 4 subdomains: domain.com,
sub1.domain.com, sub2.domain.com, sub3.domain.com, sub4.domain.com
2. You are getting spam from the primary domain and subdomains 2 and 4.
3. So in your block list, you would have:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@sub2.domain.com
@sub4.domain.com
4. It will now block those three domain names and let sub1.domain.com and
sub3.domain.com through.
~Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Message Filtering
That was my point as well - but apparently that's the way the functionality
works.
I'd call that a bug, but as Ex5.5 is close to end of life, I highly doubt
its gonna get fixed.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 4:04 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Message Filtering
>
>
> Maybe it's just late but I don't understand how @ew01.com
> would also block
> the subdomains of that domain.
>
>
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 06:45
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Message Filtering
>
> Mike,
>
> I have blocked that EXACT domain already by using: @ew01.com
>
> ~Jim
>
> P.S. - I only have about 3,000 domain names in our company block list.
> Every one of them *verified* spammers. ;0)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 7:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Message Filtering
>
>
> Jim,
>
> Thanks for the book reference. I will run out and get it.
>
> I was trying to block Neena [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I
> used ew01.com
> and that didn't block it. According to the rules, how would you have
> blocked this junk mail?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:37 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Message Filtering
>
>
> Roger,
>
> I posted this earlier in the thread...maybe you missed it:
>
> Paul Robichaux's "Managing MS Exchange Server", Chapter 8, pg
> 294, bottom of
> the page:
>
> @foe.com - reject mail from foe.com or any subdomain [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
> reject mail from foe.com, but not a.foe.com
>
> So Nate's response was spot on.
>
> Jim Blunt
> E-mail Admin
> Network Infrastructure Group
> Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:07 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Message Filtering
>
>
> Hmm - I have no problem with you saying it works that way
> (haven't been able
> to try it) but that's not the way I would expect it to work -
> I would expect
> it to be more restrictive in how it blocks, so @ivy.com only blocks
> @ivy.com.
>
> That's pretty standard practice in other MTA's I've used over
> the years,
> which is why it seems a little out of whack.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:43 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> >
> >
> > Then can you explain why I can enter @fr or @biz and the
> server blocks
> > anything that ends with .fr or .biz. Doesn't this qualify
> as blocking
> > any domain or subdomain that ends with these? It seems to
> me that it
> > does.
> >
> >
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: Roger Seielstad
> > > Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:34 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > >
> > > Actually, that doesn't support what you're saying.
> > >
> > > "To prevent all users in a specific domain from delivering
> > messages to
> > > your
> > > site, type the domain name in the following format:
> @domainname.com"
> > >
> > >
> > > Ivy.com and mail.ivy.com are two, distinct domains, and
> > therefore blocking
> > > @ivy.com should not implicitly block @mail.ivy.com.
> > >
> > > I'd be interested to know that it blocks subdomains that
> it is not
> > > explicitly told to block, though. That's quite a bug.
> > >
> > > Roger
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:14 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Check out Q245465 for Exchange 5.5. It backs up what I said
> > > > earlier. I have used this successfully on the Exchange
> 5.5 setups
> > > > I
> > have managed.
> > > >
> > > > Nate Couch
> > > > EDS messaging
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > From: Roger Seielstad
> > > > > Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 6:14 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > > > >
> > > > > You'd have to block it as 'ivy.net', not '@ivy.net'
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > > > Inovis Inc.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:31 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My understanding of reading through the help file is that
> > > > if you block
> > > > > > @ivy.net all of the subdomains are blocked as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:35 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Two stars (**) would be an overkill
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 4:24 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nate,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't understand what you are saying? I know I can block
> > > > > > full domains
> > > > > > (@yahoo.com) but what I want is to block @**.ivy.net for
> > > > > > @01.ivy.net and @02.ivy.net
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You see the suffix is .ivy.net but the prefix is 01
> and 02...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:18 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Message Filtering
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can wildcard your filters for domains.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On the IMS under Message Filtering you can enter
> > domains using the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @domain.com (.net, etc.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can filter a whole country in a similar fashion by using
> > > > > >
> > > > > > @fr (for France)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For example.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nate Couch
> > > > > > EDS Messaging
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > > From: Mitchell Mike
> > > > > > > Reply To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 1:50 PM
> > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > Subject: Message Filtering
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Outlook 98 Exchange 5.5 Windows 2000
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there any way to use a wildcard when doing messaging
> > > > > > filtering on
> > > > > > > Exchange 5.5 Admin? (Connections, IMS,
> Connections, message
> > > > > > filtering)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > We are trying to filter eMAIL using this feature and there
> > > > > > are several
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > domains that are the same except for a few characters.
> > > > What is the
> > > > > > > limit of number
> > > > > > > of sites you can block?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Mitchell
> > > > > > > Systems email Administrator
> > > > > > > Alverno Information Services
> > > > > > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > *:(317) 783-9341 EXT. 6211
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Education is when you read the fine print, experience is
> > > > > > what you get
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > when you don't!" - Pete Seeger
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
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