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Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner & White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -----Original Message----- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:14 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 Or a Happy Hanukkah or Merry Kwanza to those of us who observe one of them... Only a handful here will get the reference, but I had occasion to share the story of Peter Frampton and the Rabbi last weekend.... Roger -------------------------------------------------------------- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Sander Van Butzelaar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:48 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > > Sorry, all out. I have one hallelujah left though ...:-) It's nearly > Christmas! > > Sander > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 December 2003 03:40 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > Can I get an "Amen"! > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:38 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > > I think what is at issue here is that in the past you have spent time > in this group bashing on the major posters, a number of which are MS > MVP's. > You > insult us by calling us unethical as we have accepted small gifts from > MS as part of our MVP status. And though you may not believe it, most > of us are not here for those gifts. The time spend working in the > public groups costs us far more than a trinket from MS. For some > reason known only to you, our helping others and receiving recognition > for MS makes us less ethical than others. Please, you don't have to > explain yourself again. We have heard it a dozen times at least. Then > you come in and ask for help from essentially those same people. > > I would hope you could understand that after a large amount of bashing > by a person, those same folks may be much less inclined to help or > offer a kind word to you. While what you say is what you believe, you > can also understand that others may find your opinion hurtful or > demeaning. But next time you notice that cool new function in Exchange > that people have been asking for, you may want to stop and wonder if > that function is there because some MVP's listened to your wants and > needs and made a suggestion to MS to add that to this new version. > > Just my two cents. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:57 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > Here's a perfect example of people picking fights just to pick fights. > Let > me break this down for you. 1. I posted a question to a community that > is supposedly there to help one and all, a community I helped build 2. > I get a rude reply from Ed 3. I brush this off and simply tell Ed to > play nice 4. I get another, even ruder reply 5. I post a reply back > asking why the continued rude behavior. I posted this because I > honestly don't know what the problem is and am interested in at least > achieving a civil relationship between Ed and I. We don't have to be > buddies, but we can at least be civil. > Yes, I have moved on from our differences of opinion, it is not > anything that I am losing sleep over, believe me. But this does not > somehow mean that I cannot extend an offer of civility. > > The real question is why wouldn't I respond to rude behavior with an > offer of civility? I try to find some middle ground of civility and > all you want to do is fight and nit-pick over words and try to make > trouble. That's too bad, I guess no good deed goes unpunished. > > > "Why a difference of opinion on a single subject causes you to > > continually complain and be rude is beyond my ability to > comprehend. I > > > would prefer if you found it within yourself to get over > it, move on > > and be civil. I have." > > > > I just have one question about this. If you've moved on, > then why did > > you feel the need to respond? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Greg Deckler > > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:55 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > > > > > Yes, I have a fundamental, philosophical problem with the > MVP program. > > > Regardless of any direct compensation in the form of nik naks, etc. > > the bestowing of honorary titles is a perk and is more valuable to > > some than a monetary reward. Hence, in my opinion, it is a > conflict of > > > interest and not something that professional IT personnel should > > engage in. At one point back around the 1996/1997 timeframe I was > > offered MVP status and turned it down because of this. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=& lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
