The flaw here is that that "Cisco Certified" has clearly defined things
that must be met and requires a payment to the vendor to achieve. You must
PAY to get the required material. You must PAY to take the tests. You must
PAY for the certification.

MVP is a gift. There are no explicit requirements and there is no exchange
of currency.

This is the CLEAR difference between certifications and gifts like MVP.

> Titles based on criteria that has been successfully met, as in MVP or
> Cisco Certified, etc., has no ethical issues. It is an earned title that
> denotes an area of expertise. It is up to those who view the title to
> determine if the criteria for getting the title warrants a level of
> trust and respect.
> 
> Personal gifts from vendors that you make purchasing decisions regarding
> is unethical.
> 
> Rules of ethics are necessary in this business.
> 
> Ceaselessly arguing in order to have the last word is poor use of brain
> power, poor use of this list and poor use of ethics. Anyone whose
> priority is to *always* win the "fight" must sacrifice the truth and
> good judgment, thereby violating basic ethics.
> 
> Just another opinion :-)
> 
> Best Regards,=20
> 
> Dan Bartley
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:24
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
> 
> I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit reading.=20

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