Unbiased?  In what world?  I am an Exchange and Windows consultant.  My
customers want our and Microsoft's best practices.  I really can't see how
there is any conflict of interest being an MVP with regard to the job I do.
In fact, it's a benefit because it gives me access to resources I wouldn't
have otherwise, so I can do a better job for my custmers.

I can see how your argument might hold water in some circumstances, but you
fail to prove how it creates a fundamental conflict of interest that isn't
best judged by each MVP individually and according to his own standards and
conscience.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics

Um, yes it DOES make it unethical. You are accepting a direct gift from a
vendor and then turning around and supposedly giving unbiased technical
advice to a client. That is the definition of "real or perceived conflict of
interest". It does not mean that you WILL act unethically, but it is
OBVIOUSLY a breach of ethical conduct and conflict of interest rules.

> Sort of. There are no well documented criteria that you apply for and 
> then meet, there are informal criteria that leads to an invitation.=20
> 
> As I said, others must decide whether the criteria meet the expertise 
> they are looking for. That does not make it unethical, as you know.
> 
> I seriously doubt any customer will give you a blank check simply 
> based on being an MVP, but I know I can have a higher degree of trust 
> for the info (usually) a MVP provides in lists like this.
> 
> Best Regards,=20
> 
> Dan Bartley
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:42
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
> 
> Just so that the record is set straight and Deckler doesn't feel the 
> need to write a 2,000-word response to this technical inaccuracy, the 
> title of MVP isn't awarded based set standards.  It's rather 
> subjective, I must confess.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Bartley
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:36 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
> 
> Titles based on criteria that has been successfully met, as in MVP or 
> Cisco Certified, etc., has no ethical issues. It is an earned title 
> that denotes an area of expertise. It is up to those who view the 
> title to determine if the criteria for getting the title warrants a 
> level of trust and respect.
> 
> Personal gifts from vendors that you make purchasing decisions 
> regarding is unethical.
> 
> Rules of ethics are necessary in this business.
> 
> Ceaselessly arguing in order to have the last word is poor use of 
> brain power, poor use of this list and poor use of ethics. Anyone 
> whose priority is to *always* win the "fight" must sacrifice the truth 
> and good judgment, thereby violating basic ethics.
> 
> Just another opinion :-)
> 
> Best Regards,=20
> 
> Dan Bartley
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:24
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
> 
> I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit 
> reading.=20
> 
> 
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