I agree ( I was in the middle of drafting a response to this one when
Chris' advice arrived). I think that the easiest solution is good
deleted retention limits, and lots of disk space. The only downside is
the cost, and whatever proposal you then have to write for your new
backup system to cover your new big disks on your exchange box!!

themolk.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 12:06 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups
> 
> My retention policies and mailbox size limits are based on 
> what I feel are best for my organization (based on a lot of 
> discussions and my mail nazi instincts). Ask around, get 
> input and feedback from users and management and then make a 
> proposal on storage and retention along with projected growth 
> and cost. If management thinks it is too expensive, get their 
> feedback and submit again. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 
> Thursday, January 08, 2004 7:21 PM Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Exchange 2003 backups
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups
> 
> yes, this is my concern.
> The main part of my question was what to backup and how often.
> ...and retention setting for mailboxes and deleted items.
> 
> I need to figure out a robust policy which won't need tobe 
> changed 6 months because of store bloating.
> 
> Import all those PSTs is just not something I'm prepared to do.
> 
> 
> I can see, that had I not used PSTs and used bigger mailboxes 
> (not something I could have done, predecessor, etc) then 
> staff would be forced to managed their mail better.
> 
> 
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Schorr
> > Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 10:56 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups
> > 
> > 
> > Really big hard drives is how we do it.
> > 
> > Our users keep the mail they need and are encouraged to 
> dispose of the 
> > mail they don't need.  Occasionally they do.
> > 
> > Of course, we have the luxury of having an abundance of 
> storage space 
> > on our Exchange servers the bigger challenge is the effect 
> those large 
> > information stores can have on backups and restores.
> > 
> > -Ben-
> > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4 Director of Information 
> > Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Erick Thompson
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:39 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups
> > 
> > I'd recommend a public folder. That way, not only do you have 
> > access to email from years ago, but all users (with correct 
> > permissions) have access, instead of only the user who has it 
> > in a PST.
> > 
> > Erick
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> > Matthew Joyce
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:35 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups
> > > 
> > > 
> > > This seems to be a popular axiom, buy why are they 
> considered bad ?
> > > 
> > > How else can I give users access to email from 2 years ago 
> > ? yes, they 
> > > do need to access these.
> > > 
> > > What do other organisations do ?
> > > 
> > > Matt
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
> > > > Molkentin
> > > > Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 10:30 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > PST = Bad.
> > > > 
> > > > themolk.
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Matthew Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 9:21 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: Exchange 2003 backups
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I have just moved from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003.
> > > > > It is a single server setup.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I used to use BackupExec+Exchange agent to backup to a DLT.
> > > > The stores
> > > > > and the individual mailboxes were backed up daily and
> > > every week I
> > > > > would stop the services and do a full backup.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Before I rush out an pay Veritas for the license upgrade, I
> > > > > thought I would revue the situation.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Some background info...
> > > > > The server has 100gb of raid5 diskspace.
> > > > > There is about 125 mailboxes, I expect this to continue 
> > to rise to
> > 
> > > > > 250 over the next few years.
> > > > > Mailbox sizes used to be about 70mb on 5.5, this has been
> > > > > increased to 100mb.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Some staff do need access to archived mail, and they 
> > use pst files
> > 
> > > > > on the server.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > At the moment I do not have a well defined backup 
> > policy for this
> > > > > setup, I am using ntbackup for stores and state nightly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Any advice ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > thanks
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Matthew Joyce
> > > > > Children's Cancer Institute Australia http://www.ccia.org.au
> > > > > 
> > > > > --
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