Exchange 2003 pst files larger than 2gig are possible I believe.

Ronald R. Mazzotta Jr.
Director of IT
Schonbraun Safris McCann Bekritsky & Co. L.L.C.
101 Eisenhower pky
Roseland NJ, 07068

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups

I have a PST larger than 2GB FWIW. Seems to work fine.

Yes, I'm mostly just being difficult.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:47 AM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Exchange 2003 backups
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups

Matthew, you will find that the PST=BAD has become religious dogma on
this list. In reality, PST files are just another tool, and much like
any other tool (inclined plane, fire, chainsaw, etc) they are neither
inherently good nor evil.

On the other hand, while PST files can serve a useful purpose, they are
definitely in the "chainsaw" category of tools. They can be handy for
some situations, but they need respect, and users of PST files must
understand their limitations.

PST files cannot hit the 2GB file size. If they do, you will corrupt the
PST, and will need a special recovery tool to get back SOME of the data
in the PST. I have heard rumors that the corruption can occur well
before the 2GB mark, so we tell any of our PST users to stay below 1GB.

PST files cannot be backed up while they are open. Any users we have
with PST files run a startup script that zips their PST to a file
server[1], then runs Outlook after the zip is done.

You, as the email admin, have no visibility into these PST files. You
cannot, for example, use exmerge to delete infected emails as you could
if they were in the store.

 
[1] The argument could be made here to remove disk space from the file
server, add it to the exchange server, and don't use the PST file. This
certainly should be done if possible, but isn't always practical.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Joyce
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups


yes, this is my concern.
The main part of my question was what to backup and how often. ...and
retention setting for mailboxes and deleted items.

I need to figure out a robust policy which won't need tobe changed 6
months because of store bloating.

Import all those PSTs is just not something I'm prepared to do.


I can see, that had I not used PSTs and used bigger mailboxes (not
something I could have done, predecessor, etc) then staff would be
forced to managed their mail better.



Matt


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Schorr
> Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 10:56 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups
> 
> 
> Really big hard drives is how we do it.
> 
> Our users keep the mail they need and are encouraged to
> dispose of the mail they don't need.  Occasionally they do.
> 
> Of course, we have the luxury of having an abundance of
> storage space on our Exchange servers the bigger challenge is 
> the effect those large information stores can have on backups 
> and restores.
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Erick Thompson
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:39 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups
> 
> I'd recommend a public folder. That way, not only do you have
> access to email from years ago, but all users (with correct 
> permissions) have access, instead of only the user who has it 
> in a PST.
> 
> Erick
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Matthew Joyce
> > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:35 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups
> > 
> > 
> > This seems to be a popular axiom, buy why are they considered bad ?
> > 
> > How else can I give users access to email from 2 years ago
> ? yes, they
> > do need to access these.
> > 
> > What do other organisations do ?
> > 
> > Matt
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve 
> > > Molkentin
> > > Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 10:30 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 backups
> > > 
> > > 
> > > PST = Bad.
> > > 
> > > themolk.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Matthew Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, 9 January 2004 9:21 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Exchange 2003 backups
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I have just moved from Exchange 5.5 to Exchange 2003. It is a 
> > > > single server setup.
> > > > 
> > > > I used to use BackupExec+Exchange agent to backup to a DLT.
> > > The stores
> > > > and the individual mailboxes were backed up daily and
> > every week I
> > > > would stop the services and do a full backup.
> > > > 
> > > > Before I rush out an pay Veritas for the license upgrade, I 
> > > > thought I would revue the situation.
> > > > 
> > > > Some background info...
> > > > The server has 100gb of raid5 diskspace.
> > > > There is about 125 mailboxes, I expect this to continue
> to rise to
> 
> > > > 250 over the next few years.
> > > > Mailbox sizes used to be about 70mb on 5.5, this has been 
> > > > increased to 100mb.
> > > > 
> > > > Some staff do need access to archived mail, and they
> use pst files
> 
> > > > on the server.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > At the moment I do not have a well defined backup
> policy for this
> > > > setup, I am using ntbackup for stores and state nightly.
> > > > 
> > > > Any advice ?
> > > > 
> > > > thanks
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Matthew Joyce
> > > > Children's Cancer Institute Australia http://www.ccia.org.au
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > 
> > > > 
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