Please spend your time thinking and praying for the victims and those
affected rather than this nonsense. This type of thread can take place in a
few weeks! Let's be a little more sensitive, huh?

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 September 2001 14:42
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WAKE UP!!!!


The intel failed, the metal detectors failed, the x-ray machines failed, and
the baggage inspections failed.  Ultimately the last line of defense, and
the only one that worked at all was the passengers.  Maybe we should be
looking at developing that last line of defense, rather than trying to find
ways to disarm it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 8:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: WAKE UP!!!!



No need to bother, I already know how easy it would be. 
  
I think it is a fine analogy.  Security is security.  If you don't 
change/update it, the bad guys will find the holes in it. 
  
-----Original Message----- 
From: Andrew Baker [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:49 PM 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: WAKE UP!!!! 
  
>>Granted people could still carry makeshift, non-metal weapons on 
themselves, 
>>but maybe we need a general pat-down as well.  I would gladly deal with 
that 
>>extra "hassle" to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.  
  
I won't even bother providing an example of how easy it would be to get a 
ceramic knife aboard a plane EVEN IF you were patting people down.  It would

just add another useless step. 
  
  
>>Would any of you set up a brand new firewall and then not update it for 
five years? 
  
I wouldn't consider that a good analogy, as a firewall is only Perimeter 
security. 
  
Does you organization have a Host-based IDS system on each machine? 
  
  
  
- ASB 
  

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