RE: Information Store Limit

[Lefkovics, William]

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There are products that will store attachments outside the Information Store.  Veritas has one, and I know of at least one other whose name eludes me at the moment. http://www.veritas.com/news/press/PressReleaseDetail.jhtml?NewsId=9145   William     -----Original Message----- From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 8:13 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Information Store Limit We are a publishing company and we deal a lot with jpg files, most of our clients send them to us via email.  We have an FTP server but most clients are not that tech savvy.  A quick check of who the top offenders are shows that without exception they are the client contacts who receive these JPG files.  These users like to keep these files to refer to back to when doing new jobs.  I can understand the need to keep them, I just don't think it is necessary to keep them on the server.  For those who say PST files are bad.  What would you do? Upgrade to Enterprise, and let users have unlimited mailbox size? (that's not a rhetorical question, I understand your reasoning but it doesn't leave many options)  Imposing arbitrary limits is not going to fly as Frank pointed out.  That is something I am considering but there is a lot of data to purge before I can even consider that.   Randy Hensel, MCP, Network Systems Administrator Coffey Communications, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 509.525.0101 Ext. 594 509.525.4793 (Fax) http://www.coffeycomm.com -----Original Message----- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 7:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Information Store Limit   You will end up spending more money for disk space (server side or workstation side) if you put PST files into the mix. You loose a lot of advantages for  SIS and other things.   Have you talked to management? What about getting management to back you running Exchange Mailbox Manager on the server? Thought about running Exmerge against the store to clear out all the MP3/AVI/MPEG/MOV files that are littering up the place?   John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925 -----Original Message----- From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Information Store Limit I will have to go with William on this one.  I have 147 users the top 10 offenders account for more that 9GB of data.  As I see it I have 2 options, Spend $3300 on an Enterprise upgrade, or set storage quotas and encourage the use of PST files.  Seems like a no brainer to me, I have 5 users with more than 1GB each.  I don't mind users saving every little email but it seems logical that they should find somewhere else to put them.   Randy Hensel, MCP, Network Systems Administrator Coffey Communications, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 509.525.0101 Ext. 594 509.525.4793 (Fax) http://www.coffeycomm.com -----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Information Store Limit   What else you got? ;o)   Not for primary email storage.  Only for archiving.   -----Original Message----- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Information Store Limit but stable ? -----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 19:46 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Information Store Limit It is a viable form of email archiving.   William   -----Original Message----- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Information Store Limit as in don't use them -----Original Message----- From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 19:07 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Information Store Limit I'm not sure I can recover that much space, I am planning an upgrade to 2000.  I don't have a quota in place it looks like I will need to implement that as well as plan some formal training on the use of pst files.   Randy Hensel, MCP, Network Systems Administrator Coffey Communications, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 509.525.0101 Ext. 594 509.525.4793 (Fax) http://www.coffeycomm.com -----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:59 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Information Store Limit   If you recover enough space within the database (perhaps 6GB+), an offline defrag would not be a bad idea.    Otherwise, yor plan is certainly sound.  Do you have a formal mailbox quota policy in place?   William   -----Original Message----- From: Randy Hensel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Information Store Limit I am running Windows NT 4.0 SP 6a and Exchange 5.5 SP 4 (not Enterprise) I have run up against the 16GB information store limit.  I have managed to the IS started again and would like to take steps to reduce the IS size.  My plan is to:   1.      Move data to PST files 2.      delete unused mailboxes 3.      reduce deleted item retention   Is this a good plan? Should I also do an off line defrag? Any thing else?   Thanks   Randy Hensel, MCP, Network Systems Administrator Coffey Communications, Inc. 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