::Laughs at Toni or Randy or whichever is his/her first name::

-----Original Message-----
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?


too bad I only have one InoculateIT CD (I can't believe I said that)...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Miller [Ed] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:55 PM
> To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject:      RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?
> 
> Paul used to have a very nice pyramid of coke cans..
> 
> --Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:19 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?
> 
> 
> I need something to put my coke cans on.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:18 PM
> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?
> 
> 
> so, you want the InoculateIT CD? (heh heh....)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Lathrum Matt-P55173
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:10 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject:    RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server
> necessary?
> > 
> > Ok! Ok! I got it! I agree! :)
> > 
> > --
> > Matt Lathrum
> > General Dynamics Decision Systems        
> >              When cryptography is outlawed,
> >              bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.
> > 
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent:       Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:50 PM
> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > Subject:    RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server
> necessary?
> > 
> > I have a copy of InouclateIT Exchange Option you can have if you 
> > really want to give your Microsoft resident some ammo to support 
> > their
> 
> > argument ;-)
> > 
> > Why would you knowingly let a virus in just because it's "easy" to 
> > clean up? How many PC's/servers/etc will be melting down while 
> > you're shutting down Exchange to do the exmerge?  How much of your 
> > sensitive data (passwords,
> > whatever) could be floating out to wherever by that time?  AV is not
> > foolproof by itself.  Not by a longshot.  His comment is "...when a 
> > virus outbreak occurs that actually gets inside...".  Hmmmm... I would
> 
> > personally want to be a bit more proactive.
> > 
> > By the time you discover the virus even exists, it's may not just 
> > the Exchange server that's toast.  We had a recent incident with an 
> > exe file
> > (virus) that snuck by the SMTP proxy service (firewall) and got into
> the
> > Exchange box before the latest AV signatures made it here.  It made 
> > it into 41 mailboxes, oh joy....  Fortunately we hammered it with a 
> > trial
> version
> > of
> > a content filtering gateway (a test relay) that used a policy-based 
> > ruleset to strip it as it blew past the broken proxy on it's towards 
> > the not-yet-updated Exchange server (and ultimately a whole network 
> > of potentially-not-yet-updated PC's).  We got the AV sig's a couple 
> > hours later, and even at that point it took some time (not much - 
> > but how
> much
> > does a worm need?) for the sigs to roll out to every PC.  But the 
> > test relay system rendered it useless.  We were lucky.  AV (clients, 
> > agents.
> etc.)
> > and
> > the SMTP proxy both failed us.  A trial system saved out butts.  
> > Yeah,
> I
> > know, having AV agent on the Exchange box did not help in this
> specific
> > instance, but that's just the point - AV updates (even automated, on
> the
> > Exchange server, or the desktops, wherever) always have the 
> > potential
> to
> > leave little windows of opportunity for a brand-new and aggressive
> worm to
> > get in.  You have to plug every hole.  You should be trying to kill 
> > it
> at
> > the gateway, on any relay servers, on the Exchange box, on the
> desktops,
> > at
> > the servers, wherever you can.
> > 
> > Defense in depth.  Be proactive.  Don't knowingly turn your back on 
> > any potential threats.
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:     Lathrum Matt-P55173
> > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent:     Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:10 PM
> > > To:       MS-Exchange Admin Issues
> > > Subject:  Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?
> > > 
> > > Our environment has Trend running on the firewall for anti-virus 
> > > and content filtering.  We have NAV running on the desktops.  We 
> > > are
> > currently
> > > evaluating Antigen and SAVF (Symantec) to put on our E2K Exchange
> > servers
> > > (including an E2K cluster on a Compaq SAN).  However, our 
> > > Microsoft resident is suggesting to us that AV on the servers 
> > > themselves is not necessary and will only introduce problems and 
> > > instability (particularly Symantec's product).  He said that when 
> > > a virus outbreak occurs that actually gets inside, a quick ExMerge 
> > > on the server is just as effective as pushing out virus defs using 
> > > the AV product.
> > > 
> > > With AV software on the firewall and on the desktops, what do 
> > > people
> > think
> > > about not putting AV on the Exchange servers themselves?
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Matt Lathrum
> > > General Dynamics Decision Systems        
> > >              When cryptography is outlawed,
> > >              bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > List Charter and FAQ at: 
> > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
> > 
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> > 
> > List Charter and FAQ at: 
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> List Charter and FAQ at: 
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> List Charter and FAQ at: 
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> 
> 
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