about the name, that is...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toni, Randy 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:05 PM
> To:   'MS-Exchange Admin Issues'
> Subject:      RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?
> 
> not sure myself anymore...
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From:   Martin Blackstone [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent:   Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:02 PM
>       To:     MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>       Subject:        RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server
> necessary?
> 
>       ::Laughs at Toni or Randy or whichever is his/her first name::
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>       Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:58 PM
>       To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>       Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?
> 
> 
>       too bad I only have one InoculateIT CD (I can't believe I said
> that)...
> 
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: Kevin Miller [Ed] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:55 PM
>       > To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>       > Subject:      RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server
> necessary?
>       > 
>       > Paul used to have a very nice pyramid of coke cans..
>       > 
>       > --Kevinm TSSSBE, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond 
>       > http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here!
>       > 
>       > 
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:19 PM
>       > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>       > Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?
>       > 
>       > 
>       > I need something to put my coke cans on.
>       > 
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:18 PM
>       > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>       > Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?
>       > 
>       > 
>       > so, you want the InoculateIT CD? (heh heh....)
>       > 
>       > > -----Original Message-----
>       > > From:       Lathrum Matt-P55173
>       > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > > Sent:       Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:10 PM
>       > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>       > > Subject:    RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server
>       > necessary?
>       > > 
>       > > Ok! Ok! I got it! I agree! :)
>       > > 
>       > > --
>       > > Matt Lathrum
>       > > General Dynamics Decision Systems        
>       > >              When cryptography is outlawed,
>       > >              bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.
>       > > 
>       > >  -----Original Message-----
>       > > From:       Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>       > > Sent:       Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:50 PM
>       > > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>       > > Subject:    RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server
>       > necessary?
>       > > 
>       > > I have a copy of InouclateIT Exchange Option you can have if you
> 
>       > > really want to give your Microsoft resident some ammo to support
> 
>       > > their
>       > 
>       > > argument ;-)
>       > > 
>       > > Why would you knowingly let a virus in just because it's "easy"
> to 
>       > > clean up? How many PC's/servers/etc will be melting down while 
>       > > you're shutting down Exchange to do the exmerge?  How much of
> your 
>       > > sensitive data (passwords,
>       > > whatever) could be floating out to wherever by that time?  AV is
> not
>       > > foolproof by itself.  Not by a longshot.  His comment is
> "...when a 
>       > > virus outbreak occurs that actually gets inside...".  Hmmmm... I
> would
>       > 
>       > > personally want to be a bit more proactive.
>       > > 
>       > > By the time you discover the virus even exists, it's may not
> just 
>       > > the Exchange server that's toast.  We had a recent incident with
> an 
>       > > exe file
>       > > (virus) that snuck by the SMTP proxy service (firewall) and got
> into
>       > the
>       > > Exchange box before the latest AV signatures made it here.  It
> made 
>       > > it into 41 mailboxes, oh joy....  Fortunately we hammered it
> with a 
>       > > trial
>       > version
>       > > of
>       > > a content filtering gateway (a test relay) that used a
> policy-based 
>       > > ruleset to strip it as it blew past the broken proxy on it's
> towards 
>       > > the not-yet-updated Exchange server (and ultimately a whole
> network 
>       > > of potentially-not-yet-updated PC's).  We got the AV sig's a
> couple 
>       > > hours later, and even at that point it took some time (not much
> - 
>       > > but how
>       > much
>       > > does a worm need?) for the sigs to roll out to every PC.  But
> the 
>       > > test relay system rendered it useless.  We were lucky.  AV
> (clients, 
>       > > agents.
>       > etc.)
>       > > and
>       > > the SMTP proxy both failed us.  A trial system saved out butts.
> 
>       > > Yeah,
>       > I
>       > > know, having AV agent on the Exchange box did not help in this
>       > specific
>       > > instance, but that's just the point - AV updates (even
> automated, on
>       > the
>       > > Exchange server, or the desktops, wherever) always have the 
>       > > potential
>       > to
>       > > leave little windows of opportunity for a brand-new and
> aggressive
>       > worm to
>       > > get in.  You have to plug every hole.  You should be trying to
> kill 
>       > > it
>       > at
>       > > the gateway, on any relay servers, on the Exchange box, on the
>       > desktops,
>       > > at
>       > > the servers, wherever you can.
>       > > 
>       > > Defense in depth.  Be proactive.  Don't knowingly turn your back
> on 
>       > > any potential threats.
>       > > 
>       > > 
>       > > > -----Original Message-----
>       > > > From:     Lathrum Matt-P55173
>       > > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > > > Sent:     Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:10 PM
>       > > > To:       MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>       > > > Subject:  Is virus protection on the Exchange server
> necessary?
>       > > > 
>       > > > Our environment has Trend running on the firewall for
> anti-virus 
>       > > > and content filtering.  We have NAV running on the desktops.
> We 
>       > > > are
>       > > currently
>       > > > evaluating Antigen and SAVF (Symantec) to put on our E2K
> Exchange
>       > > servers
>       > > > (including an E2K cluster on a Compaq SAN).  However, our 
>       > > > Microsoft resident is suggesting to us that AV on the servers 
>       > > > themselves is not necessary and will only introduce problems
> and 
>       > > > instability (particularly Symantec's product).  He said that
> when 
>       > > > a virus outbreak occurs that actually gets inside, a quick
> ExMerge 
>       > > > on the server is just as effective as pushing out virus defs
> using 
>       > > > the AV product.
>       > > > 
>       > > > With AV software on the firewall and on the desktops, what do 
>       > > > people
>       > > think
>       > > > about not putting AV on the Exchange servers themselves?
>       > > > 
>       > > > --
>       > > > Matt Lathrum
>       > > > General Dynamics Decision Systems        
>       > > >              When cryptography is outlawed,
>       > > >              bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.
>       > > > 
>       > > > 
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