With Antigen you can diversify engines, which is good.  Pick three engines,
when there is an outbreak, at least one company will have made an engine
update.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-K.Borndale
IT Manager
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
"One man's ceiling is another man's floor"


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SAVF is Symantec Anti-Virus and Filtering for Exchange:



http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?ProductID=66&PID=10300065&EID=0



It's pretty new?



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Matt Lathrum

General Dynamics Decision Systems

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?



What's SAVF?



Trend Micro and Sybari make the best AV for Exchange period...





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Don Ely
Network Engineer
Tripath Imaging, Inc.
(336) 290-8293 - Direct
(336) 516-4519 - Mobile
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - email
http://www.tripathimaging.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 2:39 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?

Actually, I was talking about the NAV client piece, not NAV for Exchange
server.



And I was on the fence about it.� That's why I posted here trying to get
feedback.� There have been some very good points to use AV filtering on
Exchange and I am going to suggest that to my management that it is worth
the money.� I do appreciate everyone's responses.



The next question - Has anyone been able to compare SAVF and Antigen?� Yes,
lots of people compare NAVfE with Antigen and love Sybari's product much
more.



However, SAVF appears to be a lot better.� Has anyone played with it?



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Matt Lathrum

General Dynamics Decision Systems

������������ When cryptography is outlawed,

������������ bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.



-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?



You are confusing. Then why did you state this "This seems to make AV on
the server itself not necessary."



If you agree with us?



-----Original Message-----
From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?



If the target is IIS, then NAV running LiveUpdate on the server can handle
that.



--

Matt Lathrum

General Dynamics Decision Systems

������������ When cryptography is outlawed,

������������ bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.



-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Carpenter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?



What if the target of the virus is not a desktop? What if the target is
IIS? How will a desktop handle that. You need AV on the servers. It does
not degrade functionality or stability so much as to let that slide.



-----Original Message-----
From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?



This is not being helpful.� It is a serious question.� Any viruses that
actually get through Trend on the firewall will most likely get cleaned by
NAV on the desktop.� This seems to make AV on the server itself not
necessary.



Matt



-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?



Hi, here is a target on my head, beat me, beat me. DOH!

-----Original Message-----
From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: April 10, 2002 1:16 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?

Do you have anything more to add to back up your statement?



Matt



-----Original Message-----
From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?



I think it's ridiculous.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lathrum Matt-P55173 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Is virus protection on the Exchange server necessary?



Our environment has Trend running on the firewall for anti-virus and
content filtering.� We have NAV running on the desktops.� We are currently
evaluating Antigen and SAVF (Symantec) to put on our E2K Exchange servers
(including an E2K cluster on a Compaq SAN).� However, our Microsoft
resident is suggesting to us that AV on the servers themselves is not
necessary and will only introduce problems and instability (particularly
Symantec's product).� He said that when a virus outbreak occurs that
actually gets inside, a quick ExMerge on the server is just as effective as
pushing out virus defs using the AV product.

With AV software on the firewall and on the desktops, what do people think
about not putting AV on the Exchange servers themselves?

--
Matt Lathrum
General Dynamics Decision Systems
������������ When cryptography is outlawed,
������������ bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.



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