I just replaced a Curve that was 2 plus years old and looked like she had been snowboarding on it but it still worked fine. My former nearly 3 year old 8800 was still working perfectly when I got my Bold to replace it, my ex has replaced her IPhone twice in that span, YMMV John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud
________________________________ From: Senter, John To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Fri Oct 02 12:18:29 2009 Subject: RE: iPhone experience You drop a iphone from the car roof and it is gone unless you have a really good cas����� I have dropped my BB from the top of the car a couple of times and it only put a nick on the case (no protective case on it) and the battery shot out but nothing broken. From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:36 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: iPhone experience So let me pose an iPhone question. Compared to a BB, how does it physically hold up. I have guys here that just beat the living hell out of their phones and of course they are also the ones who want iPhones and the iPhone just looks too delicate for day to day usage by a lot of folks. The BB can take a hell of a beating and short of the occasional track ball replacement, I rarely have to replace them unless someone has dropped it in a toilet or some other catastrophic issue. But that glass front on the iPhone scares me. So how many of you that have deployed the iPhone have had to deal with physical damage? From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 8:25 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: iPhone experience OK, so my reply to you: I didnt say to pin it on anything. I said it can be done; which is true. I didnt say to do it or not to; only that its possible. I really dont know how I could have written a more neutral statement about it originally or in my reply to you. I dont think its fair to say I'm being disingenuous because of my intentional neutrality. Touch�� on the open source bits of router firmware, which opens the door wide for any modifications. My mistake for neglecting to take that into consideration. But, these forums have not been quick to uphold Microsoft's licensing when it comes to phone firmware/software customization. Theft, sure. Customization? No. Jailbreaking is not theft. Your comparison to BitTorrent use was disingenuous - for real. -- ME2 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Ben Scott <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I don't see what was "disingenuous" about my reply to Bob. Not your reply to Bob, you reply to me. Which I read along the lines of, "Oh, I didn't mean you should actually *do* what I was talking about, I was just saying it's theoretically possible." You want to argue you don't think it's a big deal, or you interpret the license different, or something like that (which you did, now), okay. I might not agree, but I can respect that. But playing language lawyer to try and dodge ownership of what you say -- that is bogus. I have no respect for that. Maybe that's not what you intended to mean, in which case, I apologize. > Its funny, because whenever someone wants to get better access control with > a home router, there are plenty of recommendations for DD-WRT. The license agreements with those routers don't prohibit third-party firmware. Indeed, in many cases, they're specifically required to release the source under the GPL. Some even advertise their compatibility with third-party firmware as a feature, e.g., WRT54GL. Apple/AT&T forbids it in their licenses, release updates to counter it, and threatens legal action. See the difference? > Apple is not special. No, they're not. And these forums are usually pretty quick to uphold Microsoft's licenses. So why not Apple's? -- Ben ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments.
