I personally have an iPhone and I can report that I dropped it while I was 
walking.  It fell about 3 feet to the pavement, bounced end over end (as I 
stood horrified) and finally landed face down on the glass screen.  I can 
report that the only damage was some dings to the edges (where it tumbled) and 
no damage to the screen.  That is not to say that the screen isn't 
breakable--it certainly is.  I would just rate it as being tougher than it 
looks, not that I don't *try* to be careful with it.

________________________________

From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: iPhone experience



So let me pose an iPhone question.

Compared to a BB, how does it physically hold up. I have guys here that just 
beat the living hell out of their phones and of course they are also the ones 
who want iPhones and the iPhone just looks too delicate for day to day usage by 
a lot of folks.

The BB can take a hell of a beating and short of the occasional track ball 
replacement, I rarely have to replace them unless someone has dropped it in a 
toilet or some other catastrophic issue.

But that glass front on the iPhone scares me.

So how many of you that have deployed the iPhone have had to deal with physical 
damage?

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 8:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: iPhone experience

 

OK, so my reply to you:  

 

        I didnt say to pin it on anything.  I said it can be done; which is 
true.

 

I didnt say to do it or not to; only that its possible.  I really dont know how 
I could have written a more neutral statement about it originally or in my 
reply to you.  I dont think its fair to say I'm being disingenuous because of 
my intentional neutrality.

 

Touché on the open source bits of router firmware, which opens the door wide 
for any modifications. My mistake for neglecting to take that into 
consideration. But, these forums have not been quick to uphold Microsoft's 
licensing when it comes to phone firmware/software customization.  Theft, sure. 
 Customization?  No.

 

Jailbreaking is not theft.  Your comparison to BitTorrent use was disingenuous 
- for real.
--
ME2



On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Ben Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't see what was "disingenuous" about my reply to Bob.

 Not your reply to Bob, you reply to me.  Which I read along the
lines of, "Oh, I didn't mean you should actually *do* what I was
talking about, I was just saying it's theoretically possible."  You
want to argue you don't think it's a big deal, or you interpret the
license different, or something like that (which you did, now), okay.
I might not agree, but I can respect that.  But playing language
lawyer to try and dodge ownership of what you say -- that is bogus.  I
have no respect for that.  Maybe that's not what you intended to mean,
in which case, I apologize.


> Its funny, because whenever someone wants to get better access control with
> a home router, there are plenty of recommendations for DD-WRT.

 The license agreements with those routers don't prohibit third-party
firmware.  Indeed, in many cases, they're specifically required to
release the source under the GPL.  Some even advertise their
compatibility with third-party firmware as a feature, e.g., WRT54GL.

 Apple/AT&T forbids it in their licenses, release updates to counter
it, and threatens legal action.

 See the difference?

> Apple is not special.

 No, they're not.  And these forums are usually pretty quick to
uphold Microsoft's licenses.  So why not Apple's?

-- Ben

 

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