Disgusted. I very much dislike the fact I have to use it. -- ME2
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Steve Ens <[email protected]> wrote: > Another question - how do all the iphone lovers *feel *now that they know > the security on their precious devices is crap and that Apple lied about the > included encryption? > > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Sam Cayze <[email protected]> wrote: > >> "So how many of you that have deployed the iPhone have had to deal with >> physical damage" >> >> I have, but this guy breaks any phone he touches. Many of my friends have >> them, and they seem to hold up quite well. >> The problem is that At&t's excludes Assurion Insurance on the iPhone. >> (All other carries offer a damage insurance for smartphones, with a $50 or >> so deductable). A MUST IMO. >> >> That will leave you high and dry when someone breaks an iPhone. >> 1. Get 3rd party Insurance on the iPhone (http://www.squaretrade.com), >> or check your Ins policy at work. You might be able to add a policy rider. >> (It was a rip off where I worked, I opted for square trade) >> 2. Keep a spare on hand. (Or at least a dumbphone), in case the user's >> phone breaks, and needs one ASAP. >> >> >> *Another reason for 3rd Party coverage:* >> Apple and At&t are NOT offering replacements to users that have bricked >> iPhones during an upgrade to say OS 3.1. >> (Ridiculous, I know, don't get me started). >> >> >> >> Sam >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Martin Blackstone [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2009 10:36 AM >> >> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: iPhone experience >> >> So let me pose an iPhone question. >> >> Compared to a BB, how does it physically hold up. I have guys here that >> just beat the living hell out of their phones and of course they are also >> the ones who want iPhones and the iPhone just looks too delicate for day to >> day usage by a lot of folks. >> >> The BB can take a hell of a beating and short of the occasional track ball >> replacement, I rarely have to replace them unless someone has dropped it in >> a toilet or some other catastrophic issue. >> >> But that glass front on the iPhone scares me. >> >> So how many of you that have deployed the iPhone have had to deal with >> physical damage? >> >> >> >> *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Friday, October 02, 2009 8:25 AM >> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: iPhone experience >> >> >> >> OK, so my reply to you: >> >> >> >> I didnt say to pin it on anything. I said it can be done; which is true. >> >> >> >> I didnt say to do it or not to; only that its possible. I really dont >> know how I could have written a more neutral statement about it originally >> or in my reply to you. I dont think its fair to say I'm being disingenuous >> because of my intentional neutrality. >> >> >> >> Touché on the open source bits of router firmware, which opens the door >> wide for any modifications. My mistake for neglecting to take that into >> consideration. But, these forums have not been quick to uphold Microsoft's >> licensing when it comes to phone firmware/software customization. Theft, >> sure. Customization? No. >> >> >> >> Jailbreaking is not theft. Your comparison to BitTorrent use was >> disingenuous >> - for real. >> -- >> ME2 >> >> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Ben Scott <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Micheal Espinola Jr >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I don't see what was "disingenuous" about my reply to Bob. >> >> Not your reply to Bob, you reply to me. Which I read along the >> lines of, "Oh, I didn't mean you should actually *do* what I was >> talking about, I was just saying it's theoretically possible." You >> want to argue you don't think it's a big deal, or you interpret the >> license different, or something like that (which you did, now), okay. >> I might not agree, but I can respect that. But playing language >> lawyer to try and dodge ownership of what you say -- that is bogus. I >> have no respect for that. Maybe that's not what you intended to mean, >> in which case, I apologize. >> >> >> > Its funny, because whenever someone wants to get better access control >> with >> > a home router, there are plenty of recommendations for DD-WRT. >> >> The license agreements with those routers don't prohibit third-party >> firmware. Indeed, in many cases, they're specifically required to >> release the source under the GPL. Some even advertise their >> compatibility with third-party firmware as a feature, e.g., WRT54GL. >> >> Apple/AT&T forbids it in their licenses, release updates to counter >> it, and threatens legal action. >> >> See the difference? >> >> > Apple is not special. >> >> No, they're not. And these forums are usually pretty quick to >> uphold Microsoft's licenses. So why not Apple's? >> >> -- Ben >> >> >> > >
