Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:

On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 10:50:00AM +0800, W B Hacker wrote:

*SNIP*

I know, let's all advocate overriding sane client defaults in everything
we reply to. I mean, that wouldn't be confusing for new posters or people
asking questions, would it?

Given that most MUA's default to port 25 for submitting
outbound traffic, that 'sane client default' perhaps should be
overriden to use a submission port.

Check the long history behind 587, including draft-hutzler-spamops-00.

The principle fly in the EHLO / STARTTLS ointment is the large number of clients that may silently 'fall back' to un-encrypted, mode - or even stroll over to port 25.

D'you suppose the mandated EHLO messages are visible in the MUA?
Let alone understandable to the average user??


Bill





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