--On 15 September 2009 02:22:59 +0200 Andrew Lewis <[email protected]> wrote:

>  > Indeed it is by design. If I get you right, if you get a NDN
>> (none-delivery-notification, or for the discussion, any other type of
>> message with empty sender, like out of office) which you can not
>> delivery, you like to bounce that? That is a recipe for trouble, meaning
>> you can play ping-pong all day long... Don't do it!
>
> I want to discourage administrators of remote mail systems that are using
> me  as a smarthost from sending these messages and if I direct the
> delivery  failure notifications at them they should at least be made
> aware that they  are generating these, which is a step in the right
> direction (my queue  remaining un-polluted is a happy side-effect).

We see a similar problem, whereby auto-replies are sent by exim to 
non-deliverable addresses. Exim is replying to the "From:" header, not the 
envelope sender, and (correctly) using a null sender. I'm not so sure the 
auto-replying to the "From:" address is correct, but I think the 
auto-replies (vacation messages) aren't sent when the original envelope 
sender is empty.

Very many of the undeliverable vacation messages that I see are for 
delivery to addresses like "nore...@...". Clearly the sender doesn't want 
auto-replies, but is not using any sensible way of discouraging them. In 
our case, meeting any of Exim's "if personal" test conditions would work. 
For example, and "Auto-submitted:" header might be suitable.

> The ID they authenticate with will always be a mailbox I control, so I
> would  know for sure I can deliver mail there.
>
> Mailer in question handles authenticated SMTP relay only.
>
> -AL.



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Ian Eiloart
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