Dear Human Resources (and expat list)

Just wondering if anyone would mind volunteering a little more clarification or words of wisdom. . . I'm still a little confused. . .
Sorry to ask so many questions, BUT:

A foreigner is allowed to spend 180 days a calendar year in Russia but only 90 of them consecutively? Is that what the 90 out of 180 means?

And I remember reading that there needed to be 90 days in between entries?
That would be odd- what if you leave for a week?

So to confirm- Any amount of time spent in Russia before October 4, 2007 does not count since laws can not be retroactively implemented- so also, everyone's clock starts October 4th? (That would be great to be confirmed since I arrived in the summer and will very soon be over 90 days.)

Is there any recourse in the law to "extend"- like getting a visa extended to say, 110 or 120 days if you are still under the 180?

And does that mean the clock starts over for everyone as of Jan 1, 2008? (regardless of your visa cycle?)

It would be interesting to know how they count the day of arrival and departure. If you fly out of Russia at 7am, or arrive at 9pm, it seems rather unfair for that day to be counted as one you "lived" in Russia. And for those people that fly a lot, those days can rapidly add up.

Anyway, grateful for any more advice and knowledge to be shared!

On Oct 25, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Human Resources wrote:


on visas, postanovlenie No. 635, October 4, 2007

it is in legal force. it says, item 5. that a foreigner can't spend MORE than 90 of 180 days in Russia.

it is in legal force.

it is also, probably not completely thought out. it would mean that embassies have to close, as there is not even a diplomatic exception (well, let's not talk about the vienna convention, that's too narrow a group).

it means, that anyone, starting from October 4, 2007 who stays more than 90 days in Russia can be denied re-entry (despite popular myths you can not be denied the right to leave if you are not a RF citizen, b/c you violate your visa).

options are: 1. wait for law to change, 2. get a conflict passport, so you have two sets of visas. Any halfway decent lawyer can do this in 15-20 working days, for a few hundred USD, or you can do it for free.

anyway why would anyone want to leave a country where this is possible (an exact quote from a previous post):

fighting in swards...long and short.

I see myself in a... hmm... long sward, but not actually fighting, I think I am more the "watch others in swards" kind of person.

PS. does this mean that nick and antal have parted ways? why am I not getting the GOOD gossip anymore?!!!
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