No, actually, I am trying to connect to my lan (nics and hubs and all) and
at the same time connect to the web using my modem (regular dial up
connection).
I'll take any suggestions though
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Shoemaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 11:01 AM
Subject: [expert] Re: [newbie] Connecting to the Internet - why is it so
difficult?
> Kirk/Mike....if I'm reading this correctly you guys are both
> trying to connect to other computers in a private lan and also
> to connect to the internet via a wide-band connection such as
> cable or dsl with a single nic card?
>
> If that is the case with you, then the problem is that you
> need a second nic card and need to dedicate one of the nics to
> the internet connection and the other to the lan.
>
> If I got the facts wrong, sorry for the intrusion.
>
> Alan
>
>
> Mike & Tracy Holt wrote:
> >
> > I don't think I really qualify as a Linux geek yet either... but here's
my
> > best shot.
> > As far as your connection with kppp, it really shouldn't be that
difficult.
> > One thing I've noticed (and written to this list and the expert list
about,
> > nobody seemed to want to answer), is that you can either have a lan
> > connection, or you can have an internet connection, but not both. I've
been
> > trying off and on for several months to figure out how to use NFS and
such,
> > but everytime I get to the point where I can ping another computer from
the
> > main on my own little network, then I lose the ability to connect to the
> > web. Once I remove the network settings from my computer, I'm able to
> > connect to the web again. Maybe that would be something you can try.
Go
> > into linuxconf and remove your other settings (eth0 or whatever) and
then go
> > back to kppp and run through the setup there. I've bookmarked a page
from
> > my isp that shows how to get kppp up and running, here it is:
> > http://help.jps.net/unsupported/mandrake/
> >
> > If you have any luck getting both your internet AND your lan connection
> > working at the same time, let me know! I'd love to be able to share
files
> > without having to boot into Windows!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > > OK, I'm not a real Linux geek... yet. I am a Mac user, and have been
> > > successfully using Macs for more than ten years, without any major
> > > problems. But for professional reasons, I wanted to get into Linux,
and
> > > chose Mandrake because it was supposed to be the simplest to get
running.
> > >
> > >
> > > <rant>
> > > I see no need to have to edit files with cryptic commands when there
are
> > > GUI interfaces that do the same thing. So, to connect my computer to
the
> > > Internet, I tried to use Kppp. I am amazed that it does not work, and
> > > that the only way to get it to work seems to be to read a ton of Linux
> > > books and docs.
> > >
> > > So, here's what happened. First, following the instructions given in
> > > some bacis Linux books, and the Mandrake doc (as well as doc on web
> > > sites), I entered the necessary info in Kppp - account info, such as
> > > phone number, user name, password, etc. I tried to connect. Zip.
> > > Computer tells me
> > >
> > > >May 3 14:22:52 localhost pppd[917]: The remote system is required to
> > > >authenticate itself but I couldn't find any secret (password) which
would
> > > >let it use an IP address.
> > >
> > > OK, this is wonderful. All the doc says it is so easy... Some kind
> > > souls tell me that I need to add the "noauth" argument. OK, why do I
> > > need to do this? I mean, why does it default to auth?
> > >
> > > But when I try to do this, Computer tells me that I can only do it as
> > > root. Now, all the docs and books say, don't use root unless you
really
> > > need to. But if I can't connect to the Internet as a normal user, I
need
> > > to be root. So I log in as root, and "noauth" and get the connection
up.
> > > The connection, and nothing more.
> > >
> > > In spite of the fact that I have my ISPs DNS numbers correctly
entered,
> > > nothing happens. Computer is searching in the ether and cannot find
any
> > > nameservers. I try, on the advice of a kind soul on this list, to
> > > uncomment the lines in the resolv.conf file, to no avail.
> > >
> > > So, still no connection.
> > >
> > > What gives? If everyone else can get a connection up, is there
something
> > > wrong with my installation or my computer? If the books and docs show
it
> > > is so easy, why I am having so many problems? And this noauth thing -
> > > why do I have to add it, when, apparently, no one should need auth
except
> > > in special cases?
> > >
> > > I'm a bit taken aback by some of the stuff I need to do to get this up
> > > and running. Especially because I have been hired to write tutorials
> > > about Mandrake for a web site, and need to explain to others how to do
> > > these things. Sure, most things work out ok, but when I see just how
> > > complicated it is to get a simple ppp connection, I am really shocked.
> > > (BTW, it was actually much easier to get my Linux box networked with
my
> > > Mac over AppleTalk; definately a power user thing, while a ppp
connection
> > > is really a basic).
> > >
> > > </rant>
> > >
> > > So, can anyone help?
> > >
> > >
> > > Kirk
> > >
> > >
> > > vice versa
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