On Tuesday 09 January 2001 10:48 pm, Sridhar Govindarajulu wrote:
> I build a AMD 850mhz system. ABit RAID Motherboard IBM 30 GB deskstar
> HD and 256 Mb memory. It's been working for the past 2 months
> flawlessly. Since yesterday the system reboots or hangs.
> I rebooted the system  and had a look at the bios system monitor to
> monitor the temp and fan speed. I noticed when the CPU temp goes
> beyond 109 F the system reboots. I am not sure if this is because of
> a faulty CPU or the motherboard. On the mother board the chipset has
> a separate fan. I suspected the memory and swapped memory form
> another machine, still the same.

   Usually it's heat, power supply, or ram errors that cause reboots.
109F = 43C  which is well below the 90C max that AMD specs. 'Course a 
max of 55C is more practical for problem free operation. The problem 
with the temp you see in bios is the system isn't under much, if any 
load.  A bigger problem with AMD cpu's is there's no provision to 
monitor the cpu core temp (ie, internal diode).  Readings from a probe 
(thermistor) are a guess, no matter how well placed the thermistor is.  
Add a minimum of 10C (maybe 15C) to probe temps to approximate the core 
temp if the thermistor is in contact with the center of the die and 
shielded from air currents (which is pretty much the case with your 
Abit).

    AMD's need a good heatsink/fan and case ventilation.  Tom's, Anand, 
and several other hardware sites have done reviews on Athlon/Tbird 
HS/F's. Also the heatsink should be firm and square on the cpu die 
using thermal grease, not a thermal pad.  Case should be ventilated 
well enough to keep it's temp at or very close to room temp.  Checking 
for dust bunnies should be done often and regularly.  2 months might 
not be often enough ;)

     If it's not a temp problem, try reseating your ram and/or slowing 
ram timings in bios. Next thing to check is the power supply.  It is an 
AMD approved >= 300w, right?  FWIW, I read some time ago that AMD 
intends to implement a thermal diode in the cpu core like Intel has, 
but nothing on it since.  Still, the thermistor's better than nothin. 
You should use lm_sensors to see what cpu temps are like when runnin 
prime95 (torture test), or better yet, cpuburn.  This is when you don't 
want to see anything over 55C, and cooler is better.     

     A good source of info for your system would be
alt.comp.hardware.overclocking.amd (even if you'd never consider 
oc'ing) and   alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit  newsgroups.
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Tom Brinkman       [EMAIL PROTECTED]     Galveston Bay

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