Please post the output of the following commands - do not send to me direct 
as others can probably help as well:

rpm -qa|grep kde
rpm -qa|grep koffice
rpm -qa|grep xinitrc
rpm -qa|grep qt

Also an ls  -l of all the rpm's you downloaded to isntall.

Read on....

On Friday 02 February 2001 15:59, Praedor Tempus wrote:
> Thank you.  BUT saying it 100 times wouldn't fix this.  Someone wrote me to
> suggest running kbuildsycoca...as root and as user.  I did.  The result was
> that root AND user no longer had a functioning kcontrol.  Neither had
> kcontrol so I cannot compare /root/.kde/share/applnk or app/ with any user.
> Whatever is lacking is lacking globally after this kbuildsycoca run.  I
> also tried the copy of
> /usr/share/applnk to .kde/share/applnk...etc.  Still no kcontrol.

the kbuildsycoca was the correct answer. However if you have any applnk 
contents under /home/user/.kde/share/applnk you are sometimes asking for 
trouble.

>
> Perhaps you will be relieved to know that I got fed up with whatever the
> problem was (since no one seems to know SPECIFICALLY what file contains the
> information that kcontrol looks for with regards to X-KDE, etc, AND I had
> time to WASTE).  I downloaded the whole mess AGAIN.  I uninstalled all of
> KDE and then reinstalled ALL of it again.  Now, kcontrol works.  Nice, but
> I still want to know SPECIFICALLY what file provides the information to
> kcontrol so when I run into this (it is assured that upon upgrading to the
> next kde2.1 version that it will break again since it has with every kde
> 2.1 iinstall so far...even though it is upgrading from one kde 2.1 to the
> next) I can fix it without all the ridiculous downloading, uninstalling,
> reintstalling, deleting .kderc, .kde/, and restarting.  It IS ridiculous.

Someone else told you  that if you do not want to take the risks do not run 
beta code, and I agree with that statement. However, there is no single file 
that provides the info to kcontrol. When the menus are built from the files 
in /usr/lib/menus there is a menu system built in /usr/share/applnk and under 
that is Configuration/KDE and in that directory is a .directory file that 
tells that this is where kcontrol is built from.

However, if you alter that file for some reason, or it gets corrupt this will 
cause you problems. All you need to do at that point is run update-menus as 
root, wait a few moments, restart KDE and you should be set, provided you 
have the right packages.

>
> I don't want to simply follow the formula, if it works next time since it
> didn't this time, of deleting my .kde/share/applnk and copying the
> /usr/share/applnk every time kde 2.1 gets a tweaking and I want to use it. 
> I would like to simply be able to leave everything alone and cop ONE file
> from /usr/share/applnk to my home version.

No, you can't. The code is in a state of change and the files used to create 
the menu entries are consistantly changing. This is a risk with code in 
active development. You wouold need to know which one of 500 files is messing 
things up.

>
> I really do not mean to be an ass but SHIT!  If something isn't broken,
> don't "fix" it by breaking it with EVERY release.  Settle on the format for
> config files (or whatever) and leave it.  You do not get any gain by
> changing the name or organization of the contents of a config file (or
> whatever is involved in this repetitive problem).  I am frustrated by the
> pointless changing for the sake of changing things that don't require
> changing.

You are welcome for the termendous hours I put in building you packages. Do 
you know what the following words mean:

Beta - unstable test release of an updated development package. Bug fixing is 
going on.

Unsupported - means the distributitor supplies no support, you are on your 
own. And if you ask for support you better be nice our you will be ignored.

README - The file placed in every directory, that says all of the above that 
people should read, but never do.

DON_T_READ_THIS - the file that was put into the same directory with the 
hopes that since no-one ever reads the README they may read a file that say's 
DON't READ THIS!


>
> On Friday 02 February 2001 13:01, you wrote:
> > On Friday 02 February 2001 19:29, you wrote:
> >
> > I really do not know how many time I have to tell you that your problem
> > is in applnk. If you have Kcontrol as root with all entries listed in
> > kcontrol and do not have the same as user that means that you messed up
> > with application links.
> >
> > 1. Check in /usr/share/applnk if this directory is readable for users
> > (see if permissions are OK).
> >
> > 2. Copy  directory to /.kde/share and restart kde.

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