Hi.  

First off, I will try your variation of not only deleting .kde/ but also 
tmp/* and see what happens.

This is incredibly frustrating.  In any case, yes, I have rebooted, restarted 
X, deleted .kde/, deleted .kderc, and then rebooted and logged in.  I have 
tried it without rebooting and I have also tried just restarting X.  In each 
case, it acts like it is starting kde for the first time when I log in.  I 
have to redo my settings, lookandfeel, etc...but NOT via the Control Center 
because it doesn't work.  Instead, I go directly to the settings directory in 
the KDE menu under Configuration -> KDE -> <the settings>.  To setup 
konqueror, I start it and go thru the Settings menu item.  I cannot use 
kcontrol because it is blank.  In addition, kcontrol in the KDE menu isn't in 
the main menu, but is placed in an unnamed folder.  If I go to my .kde/ 
directory, this unnamed folder has the nonsense name of "p^?" .  Within this 
folder is Kcontrol.desktop.  

Now, this SHOULD be a simple question with a direct answer but no one offers 
the answer.  Kcontrol likely uses some configuration file(s) (beyond 
kcontrolrc).  ONE of these files contains the X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings entry 
that it needs.  What is the name of this file?  Where is it supposed to 
reside?  

Why doesn't anyone have an answer to this?  If I knew where it was/what it's 
name was, I could do what a NON-newbie would do and simply fix that file.  
Instead, I am told to do what a newbie would do - uninstall everything and 
then reinstall.  No.  I want the simple answer to the simple questions above 
FIRST.  I can try to fix it without wasting time downloading, uninstalling, 
reinstalling, etc.  If it doesn't work, THEN I will go thru the trouble.

So, ANYONE?  What file does kcontrol look to for X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings?
There IS such a file, obviously.  If we all knew what it was, then it is 
likely that many of us with this problem could fix it without pulling a 
"newbie" and uninstalling, reinstalling, etc.  There is a simple problem with 
a simple correction that likely requires the placement of a misplaced file in 
the proper place OR it requires a simple edit to some file OR the elimination 
of a duplicate.

Anyone?  Surely someone connected to KDE or Mandrake knows where  
X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings is located.


On Friday 02 February 2001 10:58, you wrote:
> Kinda, hate to ask this, but have you rebooted???
> I need to find my notes on how I fixed this problem.
> I did rm -rf ~/.kde*, and /tmp/*, and I forget what the
> last thing was (of course it was the one that worked)
>
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zeljko Vukman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function
>
> On Friday 02 February 2001 17:33, you wrote:
> > Kcontrol is STILL broken after running kbuildsycoca as root and as user.
> > KDE 2.1 hasn't had it right since its inception.
> >
> > It is not an option to do a total reinstall...
>
> No it is not. Just reinstall KDE.
>
> >and if that is how Mandrake
> > is supposed to work, it is going to LOSE people instead of gain them.
>
> RPM's you downloaded are unsuported by Mandrake. They are NOT official
> Mandrake release. Read the readme file on site where you downloaded it. If
> you have read it you would never had any problems with Kcontrol !!!!
> I downloaded them, isstalled them in specefic order and everything works
> perfectly.
[...]
>
> You know, actually your problem is very simple. You messed up with your
> appplication links. Check your applnk directory and see if you removed any
> menu group with menudrake. Fix it and your Kcontrol menu entries will
> appear


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