Kinda, hate to ask this, but have you rebooted???
I need to find my notes on how I fixed this problem.
I did rm -rf ~/.kde*, and /tmp/*, and I forget what the
last thing was (of course it was the one that worked)

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Zeljko Vukman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] kcontrol STILL doesn't function


On Friday 02 February 2001 17:33, you wrote:
> Kcontrol is STILL broken after running kbuildsycoca as root and as user. 
> KDE 2.1 hasn't had it right since its inception.
>
> It is not an option to do a total reinstall...

No it is not. Just reinstall KDE.

>and if that is how Mandrake
> is supposed to work, it is going to LOSE people instead of gain them.  

RPM's you downloaded are unsuported by Mandrake. They are NOT official
Mandrake release. Read the readme file on site where you downloaded it. If 
you have read it you would never had any problems with Kcontrol !!!!
I downloaded them, isstalled them in specefic order and everything works
perfectly.

>One
> should not have to totally reinstall the distro just to upgrade one part
of
> it that isn't even critical and central to its overall function.  

Once again, you do not need to totally reinstall your distro. Just KDE.

>That is
> what M$ requires of windoze users.  It is not something to emmulate here.
> In any case, this is the ONLY distro I have ever used that would appear to
> require periodic complete reinstalls just to get a damn window manager and
> environment working.  Not acceptable.
>
> I have many packages on my system upgraded from the raw 7.2 install.  The
> kernel, my XFree, devel libs, etc.  I will not lose all that just to make
> kcontrol work.  

Have you ever heard about 'urpme qt' command?

>That isn't the way to design a system anyway.  It should
> NOT be necessary.  This problem exists on both my laptop and desktop
system
> essentially everything working perfectly on both except kcontrol.
Kcontrol
> broke ONLY upon installing kde2.1.  The problem resides in kde 2.1, not on
> the system.
>
> Kcontrol SHOULD work off a simple, neverchanging config file.  It
obviously
> doesn't.  In any case, deleting all things kde from one's home directory
> and then re-logging in, thus "installing" kde for that user from scratch
> should work...it does not.  It is broken and needs fixing before they (KDE
> or Mandrake or anyone else for that matter) tries to release it as a
> "final". If it is released without fixing this (simple) problem, then it
is
> releasing an obviously buggy package - which is what M$ does.
>
> It works for root but not users.  This means that what is required to make
> it function properly IS on the computer but it isn't being used for ALL
> users. What is this "thing/file" that allows root to use kcontrol but
> remains invisable and lost to users?  Where does this magic item go so
that
> it can be fixed for users?  All I get (only as a user) when trying to run
> kcontrol is:
>
> WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting
> to Settings/
>
> Obviously, the Settings/ directory is dicked up or it would work.  What
> file, and where, contains this X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings entry?
>

You know, actually your problem is very simple. You messed up with your 
appplication links. Check your applnk directory and see if you removed any 
menu group with menudrake. Fix it and your Kcontrol menu entries will appear

again.

Best regards,



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