Is it possible that there is some kind of alias defined which is setting
the -k option on shutdown?  Check with 'alias' command to see list of
defined aliases.


On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:12:24 -0700
Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Roger> I saw the note and tried su - as well.  Now I know why Linux makes such 
Roger> a bulletproof server - it refuses to go down!
Roger> 
Roger> '''
Roger> ...
Roger> login: root
Roger> Password:
Roger> Login incorrect
Roger> 
Roger> login: roger
Roger> Password:
Roger> Last login: Sun Dec 30 19:56:58 from stupid
Roger> [roger@penguin roger]$ su -
Roger> Password:
Roger> [root@penguin root]# shutdown -hf now
Roger> 
Roger> Broadcast message from root (pts/0) Sun Dec 30 20:47:12 2001...
Roger> 
Roger> The system is going down for system halt NOW !!
Roger> [root@penguin root]# shutdown -hf now
Roger> 
Roger> Broadcast message from root (pts/0) Sun Dec 30 20:47:43 2001...
Roger> 
Roger> The system is going down for system halt NOW !!
Roger> [root@penguin root]#        
Roger> ...
Roger> '''
Roger> 
Roger> The broadcast messages appear on my vnc session, but I keep running.
Roger> 
Roger> I checked my security level, it is set to low.  I set it to high using 
Roger> the Mandrake control center, it seemed to process the setting, but 
Roger> stopping the control center and restarting it shows my security level is 
Roger> still at low???
Roger> 
Roger> I managed to create a new user in the root group but can't seem to get 
Roger> another telnet session going.  Will reboot one way or another and try 
Roger> that next.
Roger> 
Roger> Roger
Roger> 
Roger> 
Roger> 
Roger> Michael Viron wrote:
Roger> 
Roger> >do an 'su -' which will make sure that you get root's full environment.
Roger> >
Roger> >Michael
Roger> >
Roger> >--
Roger> >Michael Viron
Roger> >Registered Linux User #81978
Roger> >Senior Systems & Administration Consultant
Roger> >Web Spinners, University of West Florida
Roger> >
Roger> >At 08:19 PM 12/30/2001 -0700, you wrote:
Roger> >
Roger> >>Here is my tenet session going from Windows/me to Mandrake 8.1:
Roger> >>
Roger> >>'''
Roger> >>...
Roger> >>[roger@penguin roger]$ su
Roger> >>Password:
Roger> >>[root@penguin roger]# shutdown -h now
Roger> >>
Roger> >>Broadcast message from root (pts/0) Sun Dec 30 19:57:35 2001...
Roger> >>
Roger> >>The system is going down for system halt NOW !!
Roger> >>[root@penguin roger]# su roger
Roger> >>[roger@penguin roger]$  
Roger> >>...
Roger> >>'''
Roger> >>
Roger> >>I log on as myself (Linux doesn't allow me to log on directly as root), 
Roger> >>do a su, then shutdown.  The broadcast message appears, but I can 
Roger> >>continue the using the session.  I get the same results with the -hf 
Roger> >>option.  Last evening I tried for about 90 minutes before I finally 
Roger> >>powered off the PC, so it had plenty of time to shutdown.
Roger> >>
Roger> >>I tried following some web-based advice to alter the /sbin/shutdown 
Roger> >>privileges and ownership.  As su, I think I did a
Roger> >>   chmod 777 /sbin/shutdown
Roger> >>   chown roger:roger /sbin/shutdown
Roger> >>but I get the same results.
Roger> >>
Roger> >>It is as if telnet users are somehow given a very low security level and 
Roger> >>are not permitted to execute shutdown.
Roger> >>
Roger> >>Before I took off the monitor,mouse, and keyboard, I could start 
Roger> >>vncserver and shut it down from another PC using the normal logout, then 
Roger> >>select halt from the messagebox.  But when I start vncserver from 
Roger> >>telnet, I just get a logout confirmation box without the halt, reboot 
Roger> >>options.  I even tried starting vncserver as su, then tried to shutdown 
Roger> >>-- same deal, the logout doesn't give me the halt or reboot options.
Roger> >>
Roger> >>I am obviously a newbie, is there some basic telnet authorization 
Roger> >>procedure I missed?
Roger> >>
Roger> >>Roger
Roger> >>  
Roger> >>
Roger> >>
Roger> >>Michael Viron wrote:
Roger> >>
Roger> >>>Did you type the command as root?  If you aren't root, you can't shutdown
Roger> >>>the machine.  I've had several times where I have issued the shutdown
Roger> >>>command via ssh as root, and had no problems (although it does
Roger> >>>occassionally take up to 5 minutes to fully shutdown).
Roger> >>>
Roger> >>>Michael
Roger> >>>
Roger> >>>--
Roger> >>>Michael Viron
Roger> >>>Registered Linux User #81978
Roger> >>>Senior Systems & Administration Consultant
Roger> >>>Web Spinners, University of West Florida
Roger> >>>
Roger> >>>At 04:27 PM 12/30/2001 -0700, you wrote:
Roger> >>>
Roger> >>>>Hi,
Roger> >>>>
Roger> >>>>I am trying to make an old PC into a keyboardless, mouseless, 
Roger> >>>>monitorless server.  It boots and starts up OK and I can access it from 
Roger> >>>>telnet and vnc, but it refuses to shutdown.
Roger> >>>>
Roger> >>>>If I do a shutdown -h now from telnet, it broadcasts a message but 
Roger> >>>>doesn't shutdown.  On vnc, the logoff button doesn't show a halt or 
Roger> >>>>reboot option.
Roger> >>>>
Roger> >>>>What are my options?
Roger> >>>>
Roger> >>>>TIA
Roger> >>>>
Roger> >>>>Roger
Roger> >>>>
Roger> >>>>
Roger> >>>>_________________________________________________________
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Roger> >>
Roger> >>
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Roger> >
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Roger> 
Roger> 
Roger> 
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