Hang on Ric - I won't flame you, but I will correct your math. 
StarOffice 6 comes IN the boxed set, so let's start by revising the
figures down to $168.  Now we can flame accurately ;-)

Brian

On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 16:48, Ric Tibbetts wrote:
> The full title of this:
> 
> The little operating system that could, and the little company that
> couldn't.
> 
> Meaning of course Linux, and Mandrake.
> 
> I'm a newly disgruntled user. Don't mis-read that. I'm not a new user by
> any means. I still have my RedHat 3.x disks on the shelf. I'm just newly
> disgruntled.
> 
> Why?
> I'm tired of things that don't work "consistantly".
> I'm tired of hostile "help lists" that love nothing more than to flame
> anyone who dares to have a contradictory opinion.
> I'm tired of the "partially finished" software, and having to argue over
> the value of a much needed function, just because the DOD (Developer of
> the Day) doesn't want to include it.
> I'm tired of seeing an application with possibilities dissapear because
> the developer graduated, and got a job.
> 
> But mostly, I'm tired of paying more, and more for it all. And having
> the distributors constantly stick their hand out for more.
> 
> It used to be that Linux was openly free. It was meant to be that way.
> But then the companies came in, and saw a way to make money from Linus'
> child, and built distributions. Ok, distributions were a good thing.
> Rolling your own was a bear!
> 
> Even those used to be totally free. You were encouraged to download it. 
> They still are in a way. But now Mandrake is taking it upon themselves
> to make you feel guilty for that, and even worse, making you a second
> class citizen. 
> You can't get the same distributino from download, as you can by buying
> a boxed set. You can't get StarOffice 6.0 without "Belonging to the
> Club". Can't get this, can't get that. BAH!
> 
> Seems to me that Linus' little "free" operating system is now costing as
> much as windows, without the benefit of the off the shelf software.
> 
> Don't believe me? Add it up.
> 
> Average charge per new releass:
> $69.00 per release. x 2 realeases per year.     $138.00
> Shipping:  $15.00 per boxed set                         30.00
> "The Club"
> $10 per month x 12
> (Remember, you need to belong to the
>  $10 per month club to get Staroffice 6.0)     120.00 
>                                               ---------
> Cost of Mandrake, per year:                   $288.00
> 
> Congratulations. For the home user, the cost of ownership of Mandrake
> has exceeded the cost of Win2k. And you can't even go down to the local
> software store and buy a game for it. Or a business accounting package,
> or a decent CD Label Printing Package. or.... 
> 
> Ok, yep, I'll keep running it, because I like it. I'm just disgruntled.
> 
> If you all want to turn on the jets, and flame me for it, fine. I just
> felt the need to share a few points that just fry me from time to time.
> Thanks for listening.
> 
> JMHO-YMMV
> 
> Ric
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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