I have an Athlon 700, 256MB Ram, > 40 GB hdd space.  I did a fresh install (I 
learned of the pain of attempting an upgrade long ago with Redhat).  
Installed with success my USB HP Deskjet 845c color inkjet.  

I did expert install and selected my packages as I always do, adding extras 
this time because I have the space.  

Right away, unstable.  I rebooted numerous times and often find that I have 
to power down completely for about 30 seconds under such circumstances to get 
the system to cleanly and successfully bootup.  I immediately disabled devfs 
(Why in the world would Mandrake have that activated by default?  It's buggy 
as all get out to this day).  

After numerous such problems and 3 (now) reinstalls, I tried to build a new 
kernel - I usually end up running my own kernel anyway.  Failure galore.  No 
"make xconfig" possible (cannot find "cpp0"), no "make menuconfig" possible 
(ncurses problems - I'm still working both problems)...only plain old "make 
config" (talk about painful and error-prone).  

I also appear to now (with 8.2) have some hardware problems...I have 2 CD 
drives, one CDROM and the other a CDRW.  Using either, I often ran into 
failed/corrupted package installs during install and had to restart the whole 
process in most cases (because instead of a "retry" option, you are only 
given the option of terminating the install or ignoring the problem).  The 
CDs are clean and I never had this problem before 8.2.  It MAY be 
coincidence...

No locate command.  No netscape/konqueror plugin install (this should install 
by default rather than require a hunt and manual install).  It appears that 
8.2 does a partial gcc 3.0 and partial gcc-2.96 install instead of a proper 
and full install of either or both - which I believe to be at the heart of 
the problems in trying to build a kernel.  I truly fear installing and using 
gcc 3.0.  This version of gcc is a big incompatible mistake. It is broken in 
design and I would MUCH rather use gcc 2.96 but it appears that the gcc 2.96 
supplied by Mandrake on my CDs is incomplete...what's up with cpp?  Or 
ncurses?  Among the many options I selected, I did select development 
platform so I could build various and sundry applications.  Kernel building 
is one of the very first things I always do, on laptop or desktop.  It never 
fails me, well, until 8.2 came along.  Now I have to do a bunch of 
troubleshooting to ATTEMPT to get kernel building to work.  This makes me 
suspect that I would have great difficulty building ANYTHING.  



On Wednesday 08 May 2002 10:09 pm, nDiScReEt wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 May 2002 09:23 pm, you wrote:
> > LOTS of problems with the 8.2.  I am this close to
> > dumping it and going back to 8.1 until I can pick up a
> > SuSE package...that's right, definitely considering
> > jumping ship here.  This after I specifically coughed
> > up the money to support Mandrake by buying 8.2 instead
> > of simply downloading it.
> >
> > I am now full of regret, I must say.  And I am sorry
> > for it.
> >
> > praedor
>
> what is your hardware? cpu, ram, usb devices, ..etc? Did you try a "text"
> install? Did you choose an upgrade or full install? What are the peculiars
> of your install process? No errors during installation? Need more input.
> Good to find good feedback on a bad situation. Now provide us with
> valueable data please.

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