On Wed, 8 May 2002, James wrote: > On Wed, 08 May 2002 22:22:22 -0500 > David Rankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hmmm... > > > > I've got a fresh set of Odyssey CD's... Their value is > > climbing faster than Cisco stock. Any bidders...? > > > > Again, just an observation, Praedor doesn't speak often, but > > when he does, he often speaks with a reasoned reflection. > > You see, a lot of people come and go on the list, many offer > > flames, advise, antagonisms, etc., but when a core set of > > individuals seem to be offering constructive criticism, it > > may be worth investigating. > > > > It's not what is said wrong, said in argument, or said with > > a sarcastic flair that is important, but what is important > > is 'what is actually being said'. Sometimes you have to > > distill the valuable information from body of posts as a > > whole to guage how things are really going. There is no > > doubt, this is what those with the guiding hand at Mandrake > > are doing, and if reason previals, the smart money would be > > on 8.3 before we see a 'marketing push' for 9.0. > > I for one am finding this one interesting because right now I'm on > the download version. (8.2 hasn't hit the shelves here yet.) In the > download version hdparm and kde-nsplugins where there and did > install. (admittedly only because I chose, the "chose individual > packages option") I've put it on my desktop (ASUS TUSL2 mobo with > Celeron 1ghz) and on a compaq armada 150mhz pentium mmx without a > hitch. The only thing I did have to do is use a boot disk on the > compaq (for some reason stage 2 won't load from my cd if I boot from > the cd .... the boot disk works who cares.) I find it intresting > because normally the powerpack is what I buy because it contains > MORE than the download. (It also tends to be more "stable" as well). > and yes I'd love to see an 8.3 4 and 5 at least before a 9.0. I > think that Mandrake themselves needs to get off the my number is > bigger than yours treadmill and take a bit of a tip from OpenBSD. > ***Our next release will come out when it's done, and not before. >
Ok...I'm going to add my two cents to this very informed thread. I realy feel for those that have had bad experiences with the latest version of Mandrake. The one thing however that I've found to be a steady thread in the whole journey for 8.2 is the hardware makes all the difference. One my machines at home that handles all the server chores had Mandrake 8.1 on it until this weekend. This is an older AMD-K6 233 machine with only 128MB of ram and handles samba, postfix, apache, proftpd, Bastille-firewall and shares the connection with the LAN. It does all this flawlessly. At least until I got cable internet access. I then found I would have to reload the machine with 8.2. For what ever reason try as I might I could not get the connection up using 8.1. when I was finished reloading the machine I spent 1 1/2 hours and the machine was connecting to the internet with the cable modem. another 45 minutes and the LAN was working both directions wonderfully. by the end of the day samba was completely configured, the mailserver was operating, and I was able to lean back into my chair with a very satisfied smile on my face. I have nothing but praise for this release of Mandrake Linux. I have nothing but praise for Mandrake Linux 8.1 as far as that goes and for all the verions I've used. in the past 1 1/2 that I've been using Mandrake I've not met a "bad" version of the distro. I "have" met some bad hardware combinations that simply don't and won't work with a particular version. Over all I've learned that it's almost always the first place to look when Mandrake is not performing the way its expected to work. The first time I tried to setup 8.2 on this machine it was a total disaster. this time it was so painless I could scarsely believe it. the one diference was the hardware that I was using. the only things that didn't change were the mobo, hard drives. things that changed were the NIC's and the RAM. I suspect that the one NIC i was using had a lot to do with the trouble I was having with 8.1 setting up the cable modem and one of the ram chips I took out of the machine was bad and was making life miserable for the machine and me all the way around. I'm happy to say that It and I are quite happy now. As a workstation it's the cat's meow on all the machines I've loaded it on. I've always been mindful though of the hardware that is in the machine. Especially the drives its going to live on. -- daRcmaTTeR ---------- Registered Linux User 182496
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