At 07:15 PM 5/6/02, you wrote:
>Mandrake has long had the problem where they ship a "dirty" kernel that
>requires a make mrproper before you are ready to compile (not sure bout
>8.2, but 8.1, 8.0 etc).  Also there is one or more versions where you
>actually had to load a setup file before you had a match between what
>you are running and what is to be compiled.  This keeps catching out
>people who move from other distro's who seem to get this area more right
>than Mandrake does.  I get the impression that Mandrake is aiming for an
>out-of-the-box distro, rather than expending effort in making
>customisation of this sort easy for newbies.  i.e., not done on purpose,
>but kernel compiles are not part of the main effort.
>
>It appears much of his problems stem from:
>a) unfamiliarity with Mandrakes way of doing things
>b) and comeing from another distro(s) that do things in different ways,
>and therefore making wrong assumptions such as the kernel should make
>exactly what is running "NOW" with no re-configuration neccessary.
>
>BillK

As part of this, msec complains bitterly when someone builds their own 
kernel.  Mandrake's kernel-source package includes all the .depend files, 
which get changed while building a new kernel.  msec detects all these 
changed files and generates warning messages.

THIS IS WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.

Mandrake Team - please include "make mrproper" as part of procedure when 
building the kernel-source package.  It will work much, much better with msec.

Thanks.

David


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