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On Thursday 03 October 2002 03:57 pm, Alastair Scott wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Oct 2002 08:29:45 -0500 Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Redhat is right in this issue. A user, particularly a new user, should
> > get a consistent look and feel from ALL their apps by default. That is a
> > basic UI design DO. Different look, feel, behavior for each app is a
> > MAJOR DON'T. So, go one better than Redhat and make several different
> > unified themes for integrating gnome and kde instead of the one, but
> > still (as with Redhat) leave the option for people to break proper UI
> > design and stick a different look/feel on each app/class.
>
> Except that, even with the ingenious Red Hat tricks, the UIs of Gnome and
> KDE are _not_ identical; the underlying differences in behaviour can't be
> hidden except with rewriting.
True, because one uses a well-crafted C++-based widget set and the other uses
a crusty old C-based set just out of spite. In any case, they can be made to
behave like each other to a great degree, and doing so should be applauded,
even if it means a fork.
I am generally against forking because of the chaos it can cause but it cannot
be worse than the chaos caused by the two camps already who tangle with each
other simply out of spite. It used to be based on the QT license not being
free, but that went away (RMS himself declared it so and that's that, or
should have been for the Gnome people/users). Now it is just due to ego and
inertia.
The distros can fix the rift between Gnome and kde inspite of the specific
developer teams by doing what each refuses to do...improve interoperability
and standardizing on a behavior. As long as the ability to break that
interoperability and behavior remains for the user, then there is no real
problem.
[...]
> Also note that the Mandrake gtk2 theme, plus the Crux metacity theme,
> brings Gnome surprisingly close to the default (blue) KDE 3 theme ...
OK, but this is essentially one or two themes, not terribly different from
each other. The first thing I do when I have my system installed and running
is fix the theming and look. I give myself a NICE background and select the
System++ theme/style. If only there were an equivalent style for gnome/gtk
apps instead of that butt-ugly blueish-grey-metalish theme...and if only the
fonts were AA...
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