On Tuesday 17 December 2002 05:35 pm, Jim Tarvid wrote:
> Minor update on Charles' post:
>
> IBM sold much of their hard drive production to Fujitsu. Really nice IBM
> SCSI drives are available on Ebay cheap.
>
> 3% is not too bad. I've never had a hard failure on an IBM drive either
> (one bad sector).
>
> The problems with the "glass" drives rose exponentially with the number of
> platters (should have been linear since it was a head alignment problem but
> ...).
>
> The IBM warranty was based on "average" use (business day), I don't know of
> anyone who was ever refused replacement on the number of hours.
>
> The number of hours is stored on the drive (as is the number of spinups
> ...). SMART is a nice thing - too bad the raw numbers are inconsistent
> between drives and manufacturers.
>
> Heat and power interruptions are the enemies of hard disk drives. Try to
> avoid stacking them like plates in the cupboard. Get a UPS.
>
The new computer cases are MUCH better about this. Most of the good ones have 
fan mounts directly in front of the drives. Put a fan or two there if you 
can!!!!

> I never willingly power anything down.
>
> I haven't bought WD drives for over a year but I do have a few still
> spinning.
>
> Jim Tarvid
>
> On Tuesday 17 December 2002 06:32 pm, you wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 13:39:07 -0800
> >
> > Larry Sword <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm have problems finding this anywhere on the IBM web site or by
> > > search. Can you please provide the source document you have for this??
> >
> > This all came about because the warranty that IBM used for about a month
> > some time in 01 only warrantied their drives for X number of hrs,
> > something that worked out to about 10 hrs per day.
> > This wording was quickly removed and recanted.
> >
> > A statement was issued by them that even during that period all their
> > drives were/are tested and perform within norm during 24/7 operation.
> > The only IBM drive which had serious issues was the 75GXP
> >
> > I personally have 22 hds ranging from 12gb to 60gb and age from 5 years
> > to less than 6 months split about 50/50 between IBM and pre-buyout
> > Maxtors.
> > Thus far I have suffered 2 Maxtor failures and no IBM failures.
> > The only problem I have with IBM drives is that they are not available
> > locally.
> >
> > On the subject of drives another which has not been mentioned is
> > Fujitsu.
> > Stay away.
> > They, in Sept. admitted that at least 3% of their drives sold in Japan
> > will have to be replaced but they made no admission in regards to drives
> > sold elsewhere.
> > In the US a class action law suit has been filed against Fujitsu of
> > America and HP for sale of system with said drives.
> > Now not being produced for the desktop market many pre-built systems
> > were/are sold with these drives.
> > If you have 1 of these systems my suggestion would be to replace it or
> > at the very least make very frequent back-ups.
> > The drives most prone to failure are the MPG3xx, MPG3204AT, MPG3307AH
> > and the MPG3409AH.
> > Additional info on the class action suit can be found at
> > www.sheller.com/fujitsuclassaction.htm
> >
> >
> >     Charles
> >
> > ----------------
> > Twenty years of romance make a woman look like a ruin; but twenty years
> > of marriage make her something like a public building.
> >             -- Oscar Wilde
> > ----------------------
> > Charles A Edwards
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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