yup, I'd agree with that..

So far the only drive brand I've not had issues with.. is IBM..

I have had one IBM drive fail, but it was a travelstar.. (laptop drive) and
it had been hammered for 3 years. dropped twice and generally misused. and
it still
gave me time to copy all the important stuff off before it died..

Till I have an IBM or two fail, they are still my favorite...

Incidently, when I worked for octek, we sold Fujitsu drives. (just after
seagate bought conner)
and even back them we had tons of failures, most of the faulty ones were
DOA, they never made it off the premises..

They then swapped to quantum...

Rgds

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir
Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 8:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum
capacity



--- "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 December 2002 02:04 pm, Todd Lyons wrote:
>
> > What is amazing to me is that nobody has had anything to say
> (positive
> > or negative) about:
> > 1) IBM drives
> > 2) Seagate drives
> >
> > I have my own personal experiences with them, but am curious what
> > others have seen.
> >
> > Blue skies...Todd
>
> Todd, IBM released a statement saying that their drives were not
> meant to be used 24 hours a day/7 days a week. (or some such to that
> effect). Since then, their reputation has been less than "glowing". >
I've got a 60 gig Deskstar IDE that I've had no problems with (so
> far).
>
> Got a 20 gig IDE Seagate in my youngests' computer - no problems
> with it so far either.

I believe that  any manufacturer is going to have manufacturing problems
at one time or another.  It is statistically inevitable.  IBM referred to
the statement above afterward, stating that there was alot of
misunderstanding about that statement; however we all know how the
internet is these days and the negatives cascaded rapidly, as they are
wont to do on any vulnerable topic, be it Mandrakeclub or Trent Lott.

I have two IBM Deskstars here that have performed flawlessly since I got
them almost two years ago.  The last Seagate that I got came from the
factory with the lid sealed on with chrome tape.  After that I vowed
never again to touch a seagate.  Within some months after that happened,
the Walnut Creek servers were taken down so that they could remove all of
the top of the line Barracudas they had just installed.

Everybody deserves a manufacturing defect break now and again.  But if
you're Western Digital and you cut the data crc checks from the hard
drive design in order to gain a performance edge, that's clearly not a
manufacturing defect issue.  That's a design issue.  If you are willing
to cut primary features out of a design in order to save money, then what
else is wrong?  More to the point, what else have they not told you and
what else will you find out about later from the linux hardware testers
because the win hardware testers don't have a clue?

These are problems that IBM does *not* have and it's why I'm sticking
with them as long as I can.

--LX


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