--- Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately, inmy frustration I was using the term zeroconf to refer to all > the changes in the networking setup. Between replacing dhcpd with dh-client, > adding tmdns and zeroconf and rewriting drakconnect to account for the > changes, I am quite frustrated because I have not been able to get it all to > work properly out of the box. I do realize it is a beta, and the reason why > I am fighting with it is so I can try to help get it right. I am not sure if > I am running into bugs, or if I just don't understand what they are trying to > do. I suppose if it supposed to work out of the box, and it doesn't, then it > is a bug and not me. > > As I read the zeronconf website, I see it is a project to provide zero > configuration networking even when the networks are not set up properly. But > contrary to this, the discussion on cooker is heading towards zeroconf won't > work right unless dns and dhcp are setup properly, so set it up properly > before you report a bug. So which is it? Who knows?
Hmmmmm....very interesting indeed. Since dhcp was a concept in and of itself to ease configuration problems, and then zeroconf is using dhcp to ease configuration problems, which is what *zeroconf itself* is supposed to be contributing. In the case of no dhcp or dns, what the hell happens? Not everybody is connected to a network. I would assume that in the least case there is the option to configure a static for those without a net connection, much less a bunch of machines on the local net supplying a plethora of dns, dhcp, email, et cetera, et al. The really common scenario for joe sixpack is a single isolated machine over in the corner that he can experiment with, and he's curious about Mandrake. It's probably got a network card but it's probably not hooked to a hub yet. So he goes over and starts to load LM91. Does zeroconf detect that there is no dns or dhcp, and act accordingly; using a predetermined local static ip? Or does zeroconf score a big zero? On the other hand you have the advanced users who don't give a flying flip about all the (supposedly) wiz bang services of a stupified no-questions-asked install, and want some damn control over what's happening because they already know exactly what they want. And what's more, would like to see some ADVANCED UI controls that presume smarts instead of dumbs, and don't take fourty bazillion mouse movements-clicks to get something done. If they want to de-evolve the UI to attempt to accomodate lesser skilled users, that's fine, but the more advanced options still need to be available. Cause when the advanced users start getting alienated by dumbed down interfaces then that's a big problem. That's the problem I have right now with RC1. > I just hope someone takes the time to document all this before 9.1 is > released into the wild. > -- > Greg Good point. I in turn hope the users don't get pissed more than alot of them already are over UI issues; it's really really bad timing to be making sweeping UI changes in what has been a solid product. On the other hand I think it's a really good time for Mandrake to be taking a good look at the voting system and what people are saying in the voting forums. Just my wooden nickel. LX __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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