On Wednesday 12 March 2003 10:47 pm, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> Funny stuff which I don't really understand is that in installer I could
> select my radeon, and XFree86 4.3.0 with hardware acceleration with no prob
> and the test would show the X screen in my chosen resolution and colors,
> but after reboot X doesn't start anymore with the classical error that no
> screens were found.
>
> Is anything different in the X screen showed during the config test in
> installer and the way X starts normally?!?
> I would expect that if my hardware combination isn't supported, then also
> the test inside the configuration part of the installer would choke too...
>
> :/
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] A7N8X and Radeon 9700 Pro under ML 9.1?!?
>
> > On Wednesday 12 March 2003 09:21 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > > Hi mates,
> > >
> > > I managed to solve my crash problem with the A7V8X and 1GB of mem by
> > > changing it against a A7N8X :). Easiest sollution ever (but expensive
>
> tho
>
> > > :) ). Anyway, my problem now is that I am sick of running my Radeon as
> > > : Vesa.
> > >
> > > Till now agpgart doesn't want to load on this board (nforce2 chipset)
>
> even
>
> > > with agp_try_unsupported=1 and nvidia provides no driver for its agp
>
> beside
>
> > > the nvagp module in the drivers for their graphics cards. Since I have
>
> an
>
> > > ATI card I am not sure how to make it work in a better mode than vesa
> > > on
>
> my
>
> > > mainboard. I read a lot of things on the net and I can shorten the long
> > > story to the following:
> > >
> > > 1. Some suggesting to try to install the NVIDIA rpm and then use the
>
> nvagp
>
> > > module with the ATI card. No answer from the original poster if it
>
> worked.
>
> > > :/
> > >
> > > 2. The current kernel agpgart module lacks the description for this
> > > card and though some people offered to write the driver provided
> > > someone can help with collecting the needed info, the post was left "in
> > > the air", so
>
> no
>
> > > news there...
> > > 3. Some reported they managed to run their Radeon 9700 Pro as "pci" and
>
> not
>
> > > "AGP" on this type of motherboard, but also no details provided upon
> > > how
>
> to
>
> > > do that?!? PCI is a lot better than vesa anyway, but have no clue how
> > > to
>
> do
>
> > > that. They said they got 320fps in glxgears.
> > > 4. Some said that AGP is needed just to do some texture loading(?!?
> > > whatever that is), but if the card has enough memory on the card
> > > (radeon 9700 Pro comes with 128MB) you don't absolutely need it and
> > > that you can run it as PCI (again?!? but again no clue how?!?) and
> > > works just fine
>
> (just
>
> > > a tad slower than if ran in AGP on other motherboards where agpgart
>
> support
>
> > > exists.
> > >
> > > I am as clueless as a baby in a topless bar :) about how to get the
> > > best out of my card under linux. I really want to try some gaming under
>
> linux,
>
> > > but with vesa mode and Mesagl I can go smoke a cigar till next frame
>
> comes
>
> > > on the screen.... Please help.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Adrian
> >
> > Well the truth is that the ATi boards are very poorly supported in linux,
> > largely because tech info is so hard to get out of ATi, so drivers
> > usually run a few generations behind the current ATi board models. 
> > Recently ATi
>
> has
>
> > shown some interest in providing drivers ...  If they would open the
>
> source,
>
> > things would be much easier for all concerned.
> >
> > Civileme
>
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The installer runs without strict rules about the video, but the server proper 
does NOT.  That means there is some sort of screen sort-of working and that 
it can be displayed during installation.   When the server checks with 
strictness, errors are found which would cause screen crashes or other nasty 
events so it refuses to set up the device.

The proper solution is time; however, I think you will also discover that the 
ability of that NForce chipset is quite pleasant to the eye and relatively 
high performance.  Potentially, those NForce chipsets are the fastest of all 
if they ever get the enhancements in hardware and the drivers completely 
straight.  The bandwidth involved is for mostly communication between north 
and south bridge of the chipset where the video is built-in (potentially very 
very fast) and it is the equivalent of a Geforce card.  I have had great 
experiences with the A7N266-VM, though of course the driver is binary-only 
and the kernel is thereby tainted with an unknown, if you want 3D 
acceleration.

But the Radeon drivers eventually work.  It is just a huge job to 
reverse-engineer from a company as close-mouthed as ATi.  The 9700 will 
probably be supported by a later version of XFree.



Civileme

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