On Thursday 31 July 2003 07:45 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Thu, 2003-07-31 at 15:57, Bill Mullen wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: > > > Bill Mullen wrote: > > > >The question remains, "Why would anyone want to login to a full X > > > >session as root?" ... > > > > > > Because they want the convenience of full access to all files as with a > > > console prompt running as root without the need to know how to use the > > > command line. > > > > And su-ing to root in a terminal, and then running konqueror or nautilus > > or drakconf (or whatever) fails to provide this how, pray tell? > > > > Many people want many things which are not good for them in any way; I > > want no part of making those sorts of wishes any easier to satisfy. > > Bill said the same thing and look what we got .... winders. No it's > like with my little guy. Sometimes I have to let him fall down.. so > that he can learn to get up on his own again. If the user knows root. > They can do the same damage no matter how they get to it. period. Tell > them "If you do this you can hose your box." and walk away. If you > don't want to help them in the first place... don't offer. In for a > penny in for a pound. Just don't ever tell me what I can or cannot do > with my computer. > > Rules I remember. > > 1. If I offer to help and you say yes .... I don't get to complain > about helping you. > 2. Stupidity in users is a 1 to 1 relationship with how far to the edge > of my knowledge they push me. > 3. The person you are helping isn't that stupid... they got you to do > it for free didn't they. > 4. Don't do it for them, tell them how to do it themselves, then when > they break it, show them how to get out of it. They will never ask you > again to do something like this because they will either know how, or be > so lazy they don't want to go through doing it themselves again. > 5. Whenever you idiot proof something the number one idiot you expose > is usually yourself. > 6. If that idiot was so stupid he/she wouldn't have gotten around your > magnificent idiot proofing in the first place. > 7. Never argue with a man carrying dynamite and a lit cigarette ... All > the no smoking signs in the world won't stop him from blowing himself > up. Run instead, and hope he doesn't follow. > > james Yay, Hooray, Clap Clap, Cheer, Whistle, Shout. Glad to see some good sense instead of another Microsoftisim. -- Ken Thompson -- WA7SYR Payette, Idaho
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