I appreciate your response, and perhaps I was presumtive in my 100%
suggestion. I do see your point. So why don't we all just declare the clean
elegance of linux code and distributions dead. Let's all say "Hey, it's OK
to start down the path of code bloat and incideous little processes running
in the background to direct spam to my machine." Say "yes, I like the idea
of pop-ups and spyware polluting my browser and desktop." And say yes to all
the inconvenience just so someone can put another almighty dollar in thier
pocket.

Get real!

Many people look to linux to get away for just this type of annoying BS.
Yes, I like and support mandrake. But I am UTTERLY APPAULED at the premise
and idea of including incestuos slutty advertising in the mdk distribution.
Mdk was a great distro long before the "corporatization" and focus on $
became its fixation. In my eyes, and I will say in the eyes of "many"
others, the inclusion of unwanted and unsolicited ads, in any form, no
matter how easily removed is unacceptable that will make mdk a distribution
I would no longer choose to be a part of or support.

Hooray for the marketing scum, they have finally found a way to pollute a
linux distribution. I guess someone will get a nice fat check for that idea.

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From: "Charlie M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.


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> September 12, 2003 11:41 am, David Rankin wrote:
> > Good bye Mandrake........
> >
> >     I can think of no more assinine way to kill a distribution's
> > reputation than to add to it what 100% of its user loath.
>
> Mr. Rankin;
>
> I do believe you're making a fairly broad assumption there David, on
> little or no evidence. In fact I openly stated that I don't care what
> they do to *survive,* as long as it doesn't become intrusive. If that
> happens I won't wait to say goodbye; I'll be history and thanks for the
> memories. So I would appreciate enormously you not trying to speak for
> "100%" of Mandrake users. OK?
>
> You don't know what 100% of Mandrake users are thinking. If you claim to
> you must have political aspirations, or are possibly considering a
> career in the clergy, since to the best of my knowledge they are the
> only individuals that make such sweeping statements and broad
> assumptions just to get their faces "Out There."
>
> On "Faith" in other words. So please try not to claim any form of
> "poetic license" since that's just a polite word for bullshit.
>
> I've also seen posts from some others that lead me to believe that they
> too would wait to see what happens. If we're running a distribution of
> GNU/Linux, and we are; and if we're advocating GNU/Linux to friends,
> family, and business associates, and it seems we all are, then why the
> Hell are we complaining if a survival mechanism for the distribution we
> all seem to treasure is instituted so that we can keep working with it
> and the company responsible for it?
>
> If none of us gave a shit we wouldn't be complaining so vociferously,
> now would we?
>
> My own personal mantra doesn't include whining about the way the world
> is. I'd rather devote my energies to making certain my own little
> corner of the real world improves. For everyone.
>
> For the people that are willing to listen to me around these parts, that
> improvement includes, and will continue to include for the foreseeable
> future, Mandrake Linux. If the management of MandrakeSoft have to take
> "drastic steps" to insure their corporate survival it must mean they
> want that as well.
>
> I'll say it once more for those that didn't get it yet;
>
> As long as whatever the 'Powers That Be' in MandrakeSoft Management do
> doesn't intrude on me, or those that I advocate the distribution to,
> I'll back them the way I always have. If it does, _boom!_ I'm gone. Not
> an ultimatum, a fact. A very *personal fact;* that means nothing in the
> greater scheme of things.
>
> Clear enough?
>
> Kind Regards;
> Charlie Mahan
> - -- 
> Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org
> Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-8mdk
> 11:55:31 up 4 min, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.32, 0.16
> Nostalgia is living life in the past lane.
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