On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 05:08, Guy Van Sanden wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 09:40, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: > > T. Ribbrock schrieb am Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:58:59 +0200: > > > > > Aha. How about this: If a product is good, I don't care whether I have > > to pay for it or not, I'll get it. If the product is not good, I don't > > care about free versions, I just don't want it. > > > > You decide that as Mandrake is getting money from elsewhere you can take > > the free version. All I see from you is: If I have to pay, I won't take > > it, because Mandrake gets enough money from elsewhere. > > > > OK, everybody has his right to decide, but don't try to construct > > reasons where there are none. I'd be perfectly happy with you saying: "I > > don't want to pay for a distribution, I want it gratis!" Why not, it's > > not illegal. But I complain about the reasons you give for not buying > > any more. They are just not right. > > > > wobo > > > > To be fair Wobo, he really didn't say that. > It's about the same with TV-channels. > I get a number of channels for free, because they are paid for by the > commercials, I don't like it, but I'm not forced to watch them. > If I pay a subscription fee for those channels, the commercials are not > acceptable. I do not think I should pay to be forced to watch > commercials. I guess you don't get cable and have never seen discovery channel, cause they sure are a fee-subscription service, and they sure have some commercials.
> So, if I pay for my boxed Mandrake distro, it should not contain ads. always did before, just adds for Mandrake services not 3rd party services. seems to me RH puts a LOT of adds for RH inc. in their distro too... > Now, in all fairness, it is the right of Mandrake as a company to do > this, but it is also the right of their users to switch distro if they > don't like this. sure, no one is begging you to stay a "loyal MDK freeloader", just debating if your reasoning is sincere. > > I ditched SuSE a year ago (after 5 years of use - and buying every major > release), because I resented the fact that they held YaST in proprietary > development, and the last drop was UnitedLinux. > SuSE was free to choose their path, just as I was free to protest it by > moving to Mandrake, because they better represented my ideals. > > Now, in a perfect world, Linux (and others) would be developped by > non-commercial institutions with government funding. I DO NOT want any governmental involvement, and the smaller the better. > It would be > completely free of commercial influences. I doubt _anything_ in the US government is free of "commercial influences", and that goes for all 50 state governments and all county governments too... > But this is not a perfect world, our legacy-capitalistic society is not > yet really ready for notions of openness and freedom. That is why Linux > companies are an 'evil' we need to tolerate. > > Mandrake is a fine organisation, and I admire a lot of what they do, but > I would be even happier to see them as a not-for-profit organization, > yet I also know that this would be impossible at this time. > > As I stated earlier, I will now wait and see how things go over the next > months. I will still be using 9.2, but if things progress in the wrong > direction I will probably switch to Debian, Gentoo or even FreeBSD > (which I am already using on some systems). > > my suggestion to you would be to stick with free BSD, and any of the stuff you use with any company backing them, delete it right away. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org
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