Personally I don't run a Kaw but I'm damn glad they excluded porting work. The last thing we need IMO is a variety of engine "development" programs. With the exhausts that the Kaws can use porting can make a big difference, especially when the engines only have to work a narrow rpm band and they run at a lighter weight with the same wheel/tire package. I thought that was a well reasoned decision, and it wouldn't bring out old cars to the road races anyway. It would have really opened up the floodgates for the autocrossers. i can imagine it would have created even some "hybrid" autocross cars. Again just my opinion.

dan hester wrote:

well i agree, the crb is not supporting growth in this class, look through the fast tracks and pay close attention to how fast things are remedied in other classes when things become UN-available. they address dozens of issues in other classes all at the same time and our class is paid little attention to and when a request is put in it isn't even looked at very hard we get a response like " although we realize the kawasaki needs attention the porting is not consistent with the f500 rules " well HELLO which section of the rules would that be referring to? the section that has 3 different rule sets for engines. it would appear that the request was to change the rule on porting the kawaski we realize its not consistent thats why the request was made. It doesnt matter to me as i wouldnt run the engine anyway but that was the dumbest damn answer iv'e ever seen.
dan


From: "Art" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [F500] rotax engine
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 08:38:08 -0400


Actually, Tony only needs to see some interest in the 493 from this group. If he had about 5 requests for a 493, even if those requests were not for immediate delivery, he'd place the minimum order of 10 engines with Rotax and put the unneeded engines on the shelf for future delivery. He said that
last year and I don't think he has changed his business plan.

Tony wants to work with us on the 493 and do everything necessary to supply the need, but because of SCCA racing's additional 50# tagged to the engine,
there just doesn't seem to be the interest. And, quite frankly, I can't
blame the members not wanting to add 50# without the extra performance to offset that increased weight. A new 493 is no better then a good 494. All the testing, including the testing QRE has done, has proven that fact to us and that is why we are still running the 494 for as long as we can. Kinda short sighted I'll admit, but like everybody else, we don't race to be an
"also ran" and until SCCA removes that 50#, we will continue to run 494s
until there are no blocks left to put in a car.

>From a manufacturer's viewpoint, when we build a new car we want to put a
new engine in it. The customer should and does expect that. What's the
availability of new engines? Can Q look a customer square in the eye and
tell him he can put a 493 in the chassis but not to worry, that extra weight doesn't mean a thing? Not on your life! Sure we could wait out SCCA for 10
years or so until there just isn't any good 494 or 440 parts around (440
parts are already like hen's teeth), then everybody would have to go to the 493 and add the weight. Does anyone reading this want to wait that long for
things to even out? By that time, the 493 will probably be history too
:-):-(.

>From what I'm reading in the last few days, some people are already having trouble finding those good, solid, and legal 494 blocks. Maybe people will
start writing to the CRB in numbers so that SCCA gets the clear message.
Then again, maybe not :-(.

As many have said on this forum, it is just crazy to weigh more then your competitors without any additional engine performance and the CRB is hurting the future growth of this class with this foolishness. With all the stuff that our members have asked the CRB to do to the class recently, the removal
of the 50# penalty for the 493 should have been the priority if we were
really interested in maintaining and increasing our class.

Making 440s more competitive is fine, but the Kawis and the 494s are the
past, not the future. And, if we really are interested in growth, you're not
going to find it in a junkyard!

Art

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McAbee,
Chuck
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [F500] rotax engine

Tony Murphy (661) 944-1624 is the Rotax aftermarket distributor for the US and has all the parts necessary to maintain the Rotax 493 and 494 engines.

While SCCA may not like the sound of our engines....they do like the green
of our money.

The 494 engine has not been produced for production snowmobiles since about
1998. The 493 is currently being produced, however, Tony Murphy has to
purchase a minimum of 10 engines from Rotax at a time; therefore Tony needs to have nearly 10 solid orders in order to minimize his financial risk in
buying 10 engines at time.

Sourcing parts for race cars....any race car, is not a matter of going down
to NAPA and taking the parts down off the rack.


Chuck McAbee
SEDIV #16



-----Original Message-----
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:27
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [F500] rotax engine


dan I also have been looking for an engine and having a hard time finding an
engine 494.... who is selling these..... who is selling cylinders... why
does f500 always get the dreags of the barrel and everything is hard to find and out dated.... wheels engines... parts...does the scca not like us???????
I thought it was that I was not in snowmobile country...

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