Good point, Dave. At our local Northern California track, Thundhill (15 turns, 
3 miles), the F500 lap record is a 1:53; same as the track's 125cc shifter lap 
record and slower than the 250cc shifter record of 1:48. Stan

Dave Phaneuf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know about 5-6 people who autocross 
125 shifter carts
and about 4 who roadrace with them and none of these
drivers look at a F500 car as any kind of step
up, in fact they all feel it would be a step backward
in terms of speed and skills required.
Dave Phaneuf


                
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