Chuck, I saw the West with all the bodywork off. I have been studying the Stohr, so I'm pretty familar with the design, but whatever... Chris R.
Chuck Voboril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris, where do you come up with this stuff? Just kidding..:-> Of course the West vs Lee Stohr cars look similar externally since those were probably made from the same molds and jigs at the point of Lee's departure from the partnership. You may not see the aero and suspension deltas unless they are side by side and fully exposed. and even then you may not see all the differences. The under body aero and rear suspension design keeps changing radically even among just the Lee Stohr cars and they all perform rather differently depending upon vintage. Chuck >From: Chris Reinhardt >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [F500] F1000 tidbits.... >Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:20:52 -0700 (PDT) > > Chuck, where do you come up with this stuff??? The West car is nearly a >carbon copy of the Stohr, less the ground effects floor pan. I saw the car >at the New England GP and spoke with one of the engineers. Supposedly, he >changed the whole back end of the car. The only difference I saw was a >ZX10, rather than a R1.... > > Chris R. > >Dave Craddock wrote: > Chuck,So far West has not challenged Stohr in SCCA competition,I guess >there are a few more competing in IMSA LITES,theoretically with under car >rero development they should be able to compete in C&D sports we will see!? >Dave Craddock > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck >Voboril >Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:37 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [F500] F1000 tidbits.... > > >In any case, with both West and Lee Stohr cars evolving past the point >where >the partners broke up, the designs are definitely deviating from each other >now and show the results of each company's individual talents. The West >version might just be the better of the 2 in the end. I wish them both the >best of luck. > > > >Chuck > > > > > > >From: Chris Reinhardt > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [F500] F1000 tidbits.... > >Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:11:40 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Lee, sees it a little different..... kinda like a date in Jersey, minus > >the dinner and movie!!! > > > > Chris R. > > > >Chuck Voboril wrote: > > Chris, to be fair, I believe that Lee was the one to split off from his > >partners to form his own company and West (his old partners) is now doing > >their own original development to possibily surpass even Lee's current > >efforts. > > > > > > > >Chuck > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Chris Reinhardt > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: Re: [F500] F1000 tidbits.... > > >Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:54:39 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > Have the F1000 rules been finalized? The concept was to re-fit FA cars > > >with 1000cc bike motors. I know Lee was trying to make it so that a new > > >chassis could be introduced. Lee's concept took a $20k winning DSR and > > >turned into a $80k car, then West racing stole the design!!! > > > > > > Chris R. > > > > > >Eric D Christensen wrote: > > > OK... with all the discussion about costs and car counts and the >threat > > >of F1000 taking over, I just had to share this: > > > > > >Stohr Cars Announces F1000 Car > > >________________________________________________________________ > > >Lee Stohr Cars LLC is building a new motorcycle-engined Formula > > >1000 / FS class car. This new open wheel race car marks Stohrs > > >return to it's roots as a top competitor in the Formula Ford > > >class. Stohr Cars have won 4 straight SCCA National > > >Championships in bike-powered D Sports Racing. This combination > > >of experience makes us well placed to take the lead in Formula > > >1000. Our F1000 racing cars come standard with many of the same > > >components that make the WF1 the dominate bike-engined sports > > >racer in America. > > > > > >The Stohr F1000 will be unveiled at the SCCA Runoffs in Topeka > > >this fall. The car can run both in the FS class, and it will > > >meet the newly published SCCA F1000 rules for a steel tube > > >framed, flat bottom car. See the related SCCA News Release here > > >- www.scca.com/News/News.asp?Ref=610 > > > > > >Price for the first 10 Stohr F1000 cars will be guaranteed at > > >$28,995 each. This is a rolling chassis, with Quaife > > >differential, centerlock wheels, paddle shifter, CNC billet > > >uprights and 'Stohr Spar'. Visit our web site at www.stohr.com > > >for more details and progress photos over the next few months. > > >Deposits are being taken now, please call for more information. > > > > > >Lee Stohr Cars LLC > > >503-775-1114 > > > > > >OK... That's $28,995 for a roller. Add tires, engine, dash and bells >and > > >whistles and you're easily looking at $35,000 to get on track. > > > > > >By the way, Phoenix Race Cars is also planning a F1000 chassis for next > > >year, targeting "35,000 - $40,000" as a turn-key. > > > > > >Still think that F1000 is a real threat to F500? > > > > > >By the way... I'm not ignoring the threads about advertising and > > >promotion ideas. I'm just busy with work right now. I figured I'd let > > >you all hash out some ideas. > > > > > >----- > > >Eric D Christensen > > >Proadmin, Inc. > > > > > >Spam detection software, running on the system "tucson.proadmin.com", >has > > >identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message > > >has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or >label > > >similar future email. 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