But that is one of the very costly things for them, building the first tansaxle with the correct gears. I bought my Rotax for less than what some guys spent on their SV transaxle!

BobbyJ
#5 FM NER SCCA
----- Original Message ----- From: "Art" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: [F500] Solo National results


John,

Are the Vees limited on the gearsets for their transaxles?

No restriction.

IMO disc brakes would help and probably allow them to make something like a
950 lb weight at the same time.

I don't feel that giving Vees disc brakes is a problem. Question is, do they
want them? As far as weight reduction is concerned, I don't know if they
have explored that possibility. The older Vee's chassis' may not have the
ability to reduce weight easily. But if it is realistically obtainable, a
weight reduction would certainly be an option.

Rack and pinion probably wouldn't increase speed much but it would make the
Vees nicer and give them another tuning tool.

I wouldn't consider that to be a problem either but again, they must say
that they want it.

As mentioned, the Vees have not come together to decide which direction they
wish to go. Once that is decided, getting there will be a whole lot easier
:-).

BTW, if rule changes (allowances) are what they want, we're talking about
2008, not 7. Asking the SEB and the BOD to consider 2007 rule changes at
this late date would be a wildly speculative request.

Art

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
Whitling
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 12:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [F500] Solo National results

In my opinion, the SV guys must first unite and agree with themselves on
maybe 3 different proposals ... and quickly. The biggest problem is that
many of them I've spoken with don't want to have to spend any money to go
faster. The second problem is that many of them feel it's a power problem
(IMO far from the truth).

I'll go out on a limb here and point out a few things that I observed at
nats ...
lots of vees that sit very high off the ground no 2 driver vees (a big issue
this year) Scott Nardin (the leading Vee) tried a new tire setup on the
first day that didn't work. His 2nd day performance wasn't bad when he
reverted back to his known good setup.

We should try to work with the Vee guys. First they must come to some kind
of consensus, second they have to realize that it will cost some money, and
third (IMO) motor ain't it.

Are the Vees limited on the gearsets for their transaxles? If so opening up
gearing rules might help.
IMO disc brakes would help and probably allow them to make something like a
950 lb weight at the same time.
Rack and pinion probably wouldn't increase speed much but it would make the
Vees nicer and give them another tuning tool.

Don Miller wrote:

We started discussing what we can ask for after last years Nats. After
this years, there is such a divided SV camp, who knows what's going to
happen. I think the F500's whupped our asses. My personal opinion is SV
needs some development like the F500 has for Road racing but do not see
that happening. A 40 year old technology car with not a huge following
needs something but who knows what that something is.
Congrats to the Winners!

Don (finished 21st) Miller
1966 Solo Vee

--- Jim Libecco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



well how long until the SV crowd finds foul and needs a break on
something?
Congratuations to Gary.  (and everyone else)


jim
ex national champion and
former bearer of the FMod-diamond-encrusted-orange cone tiara

----- Original
Message ----
From: John Whitling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: F 500
mailing list www.f500.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:02:24 PM
Subject: [F500] Solo National results

OK, well you've all been waiting for
this .. well maybe you haven't. In
any case the Solo Nationals are now
history for F modified and the
Formula 500s were well represented. The class included 35 drivers,
with about 23 of them being F440/500 cars. It was a close battle both
days, with Lawrence Edwards taking the first day lead only to have
Gary Kramer sneak off with the win over both days.  The racing was
tight, with the first 5 cars separated by only 6 tenths after 98
seconds of racing. 9 out of the the top ten were F500 cars. Here are
the trophy winners ..

1.   Gary Kramer    98.016
2.   Lawrence Edwards    98.282
3.   Jeff
Blumenthal   98.331 (good job guy!)
4.   Eric Heller   98.428
5.   John
Whitling   98.683
6.   Brian Ciarlei   99.334
7.   Greg Piper   99.337
8.
Vern Lyle   99.577
9.   John Paul Engstrom   100.140
10. Scott Nardin
100.285

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