I think that rather than restarting this whole process, we should 
re-submit the 3" maximum puck (you don't have to change if you don't 
want to) proposal but this time with the poling results we did last 
winter. Sure I would like shocks but that's pie in the sky right now. 
Forget it for the short term.

My plan, and probably most people's plan, was to build in some rebound 
dampening with 3" puck so that half was for jounce (means that one side 
of the pucks must be compressed in the cans while the other amount is 
for bump that is a lot more linear. I would like to try this but 
admittedly the performance increase would be minimal and confined to 
bumpy situations.

Joe Palmer wrote:

> Three?  27 at Run-Offs, only a couple teenagers, four newbies 
> announced on this list in the past several weeks, and I'm in contact 
> with four more off this list, and I'm sure there are others.  I've 
> spoken to most of them and they all joined F5 for the same reason . . 
> . almost verbatim from Cory & Chuck's messages, which happens to be 
> the same reason I joined, and Cory, and Chuck, and 99% of this list.
>
> We all look forward to the learnings from the FS project . . . as much 
> as you're willing to share.  I think the "democratic" style 
> "Improvements Initiative" is the fair and efficient way to determine 
> what is best for the class.  We're certainly free to launch another 
> effort to push through another list of Improvement Items for the class 
> in 2007 . . . maybe inexepensive shocks and who knows what else.
>
> The healthy debate on this list and testing and FS kind of projects 
> are much appreciated by all in providing facts to the debate, which 
> will lead to an informed class membership and informed "vote".
>
> . . . we all want the same thing for the F500 class . . . healthy 
> growth and continued close, affordable competition.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Reinhardt" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:26 AM
> Subject: RE: [F500] Pucks again
>
>
>> Hey Chuck, and all three of those families will contiue to enjoy the 
>> class!!!
>>
>>
>>  CR
>>
>>
>> "McAbee, Chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  Chris -
>>
>> The Rakovan of 2005 used the wording 'snowmobile derived drive train' to
>> implement a design around a transfer case that permitted the engine to
>> be turned so the exhaust ports faced the rear of the car. While that
>> design was found to be legal, when protested at the 2005 Runoff's; the
>> CRB/BOD implemented clarifying GCR wording to make it illegal for 2006
>> and beyond. The Rakovan of 2005 ventured into the gray area of the
>> rules.
>>
>> If the CRB/BOD would implement a 'RULE' about the 3 inch rubbers or
>> shocks, that would be in the Black & White area of the rules with no
>> gray. If there are Black & White rules for the manufacturers to build
>> cars around, they will as long as someone will buy them. Kenney Price
>> built, I believe, 6 new Scorpions that competed at the Runoff's this
>> year. The 'Highly Competitive' racer will always spend his money if he
>> thinks something is better (i.e.. Faster) than what he currently has.
>>
>> I have to agree with Cory - F500 is not a stepping stone class for young
>> Karters on their way to be the next Michael Schumacher. It is a highly
>> competitive class for nominally young FAMILY men (I know all about the
>> old pharts that also participate, cause I are one) and women that have
>> the passion to race but don't want to bankrupt their family in their
>> pursuit of that passion. The talk of Bike Motors, Geared Transmissions,
>> Hydraulic Shocks and Springs does one thing and one thing alone - DRIVE
>> COST UP AT A GEOMETRICAL RATE besides making all existing cars obsolete.
>>
>> Were the class to implement Bike Motors, Geared Transmissions, Hydraulic
>> Shocks and Springs, then the class would be just like all the other
>> Formula classes and lose it's market.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chuck McAbee
>> SEDIV #16
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
>> Reinhardt
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:34 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [F500] Pucks again
>>
>>
>> Cory, there's no foundation that new cars will be built around new
>> shocks, ask any of the builders, Jay for example on here, there isn't
>> enough money/new driver's/interest in the class to design/build a new
>> car.
>> Here's a recent example, the Rakovan, do you think he wants to build
>> a new car around a new shock to find out it will outlawed?
>> We keep getting back to the fear of the unknown..
>>
>> CR
>>
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