John & Classmates,

Several weeks ago, upon learning that the Improvement Items supporting documentation never made it to the BOD from the CRB, I immediately resent it all to the BOD E-mail address and to my local BOD representative.

I subsequently sent several messages asking for guidance on how best to proceed to get the proposal reconsidered with all the supporting information.

The latest message I've received indicates that the BOD is reviewing the decision and I should watch Fastrack for any changes or clarifications.

Shiny Side Up,
Joe Palmer
TX Novakar #56

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Whitling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 8:25 AM
Subject: Re: [F500] Pucks again


I think that rather than restarting this whole process, we should
re-submit the 3" maximum puck (you don't have to change if you don't
want to) proposal but this time with the poling results we did last
winter. Sure I would like shocks but that's pie in the sky right now.
Forget it for the short term.

My plan, and probably most people's plan, was to build in some rebound
dampening with 3" puck so that half was for jounce (means that one side
of the pucks must be compressed in the cans while the other amount is
for bump that is a lot more linear. I would like to try this but
admittedly the performance increase would be minimal and confined to
bumpy situations.

Joe Palmer wrote:

Three?  27 at Run-Offs, only a couple teenagers, four newbies
announced on this list in the past several weeks, and I'm in contact
with four more off this list, and I'm sure there are others.  I've
spoken to most of them and they all joined F5 for the same reason . .
. almost verbatim from Cory & Chuck's messages, which happens to be
the same reason I joined, and Cory, and Chuck, and 99% of this list.

We all look forward to the learnings from the FS project . . . as much
as you're willing to share.  I think the "democratic" style
"Improvements Initiative" is the fair and efficient way to determine
what is best for the class.  We're certainly free to launch another
effort to push through another list of Improvement Items for the class
in 2007 . . . maybe inexepensive shocks and who knows what else.

The healthy debate on this list and testing and FS kind of projects
are much appreciated by all in providing facts to the debate, which
will lead to an informed class membership and informed "vote".

. . . we all want the same thing for the F500 class . . . healthy
growth and continued close, affordable competition.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Reinhardt"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:26 AM
Subject: RE: [F500] Pucks again


Hey Chuck, and all three of those families will contiue to enjoy the
class!!!


 CR


"McAbee, Chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Chris -

The Rakovan of 2005 used the wording 'snowmobile derived drive train' to
implement a design around a transfer case that permitted the engine to
be turned so the exhaust ports faced the rear of the car. While that
design was found to be legal, when protested at the 2005 Runoff's; the
CRB/BOD implemented clarifying GCR wording to make it illegal for 2006
and beyond. The Rakovan of 2005 ventured into the gray area of the
rules.

If the CRB/BOD would implement a 'RULE' about the 3 inch rubbers or
shocks, that would be in the Black & White area of the rules with no
gray. If there are Black & White rules for the manufacturers to build
cars around, they will as long as someone will buy them. Kenney Price
built, I believe, 6 new Scorpions that competed at the Runoff's this
year. The 'Highly Competitive' racer will always spend his money if he
thinks something is better (i.e.. Faster) than what he currently has.

I have to agree with Cory - F500 is not a stepping stone class for young
Karters on their way to be the next Michael Schumacher. It is a highly
competitive class for nominally young FAMILY men (I know all about the
old pharts that also participate, cause I are one) and women that have
the passion to race but don't want to bankrupt their family in their
pursuit of that passion. The talk of Bike Motors, Geared Transmissions,
Hydraulic Shocks and Springs does one thing and one thing alone - DRIVE
COST UP AT A GEOMETRICAL RATE besides making all existing cars obsolete.

Were the class to implement Bike Motors, Geared Transmissions, Hydraulic
Shocks and Springs, then the class would be just like all the other
Formula classes and lose it's market.



Chuck McAbee
SEDIV #16

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Reinhardt
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [F500] Pucks again


Cory, there's no foundation that new cars will be built around new
shocks, ask any of the builders, Jay for example on here, there isn't
enough money/new driver's/interest in the class to design/build a new
car.
Here's a recent example, the Rakovan, do you think he wants to build
a new car around a new shock to find out it will outlawed?
We keep getting back to the fear of the unknown..

CR


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