Hey Chuck, good theory but it's already been proven wrong several times over in this class. Remember Kawasaki 440's and Rotax 494's? These motors are still serviceable, and in the case of 494 still very competitive but they have been "outdated" by the newer power plants. My personal view is that #1 the manufacturer has to have access to new engines to sell cars, and #2 when, not if, 4 strokes show to be faster then 2 strokes, the 2 strokes will just go away the same way it's happening in the motorcycle world. CR
Chuck Voboril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bobby, You and I will be too old to drive by the time F500 2-strokes are no longer serviceable. The 4-stroke equivalent stuff is bigger, heavier for what it does and isn't any quieter. The Kaw 436cc motor is still 100% maintainable and it has been out of production for about 27 years. Doesn't matter what the new stuff is. We simply don't need it. FF1600 and FF2000 get along just fine w/out new motors. Probably 40 years since a Cortina 1600 was available in a new car(sled). New FF1600 cars are sold just fine by the mfg. w/out a car to source a new motor out of. The Zetec powered FC is no great seller. The FF2000 Pinto 2L motor wil probably get an aftermarket aluminum head soon (like the Cortina 1600 did), so it shall probably be serviceavle forever and continue as the most popular FF2000 variation ever. Artic Cat and Polaris are dong fine with their 2-strokes. The 2008 service manuals are due out in 3 weeks. They cover all the 2-stroke sleds they still make (about 4-6 different ones each) Chuck >From: "fmod" >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: >Subject: [F500] 2 stroke engines >Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 19:52:17 -0500 > >Was at the local Honda/Suzuki checking on see if the 2007 bike I ordered >was >in yet. Would like to ride it a little before the real bad weather. > >I was talking to one of the owners, they also sell Yamaha and Bombardier >watercraft (summer cousins to snowmobile). We got talking about which >engines we currently use and he asked me what are you guys going to do for >new >engines after 2008 when Bombardier is scheduled to stop making 2-Stroke CVT >equipped Snowmobile's and all their models will by then be replaced with >4-Stroke CVT equipped engines. I said don't ask! > >This is a rather small shop but they had almost every model of Honda and >Suzuki motorcycle. The only 2-stroke engine thing he had in the shop was >one >model of Yamaha Watercraft! Something to again think about. I would say >if >you go to a former NER f500 divers place of employment in Mass. where they >sell many Bombardier Snowmobile's he would say the same thing. > >Not trying to get people pissed off, but time waits for no man and time is >flying by us! We are several years behind the curve. Motocross is almost >fully switched to 4-stroke bikes. Watercraft and outboard motors are not >far >behind! > >Starting to talk about it without everyone blowing a fuse is the only way >for >all you younger people to keep this class going. I and others are near the >end of the game, but still care deeply about a class that has brought us so >much fun and friendship for a reasonable price. Plus you can't put a price >on >all the great people we have met in person or talked to on this site! > >Everyone have a good and safe holiday season! > >BobbyJ >#15 Fmod NER SCCA > >PS: This is not about 4-stroke bike engines for our class. This is only >about thinking about 4-stroke CVT equipped Rotax Snowmobile Engines even if >it >takes five (5) or more years of careful planning! --------------------------------- Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail. ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________ _______________________________________________ F500 mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change options please visit: http://f500.org/mailman/listinfo/f500 *** Please, DO NOT send unsubscribe requests to the mailing list! ***
