It looks like the debate shouldn't be 2 stroke vs 4 stroke, but if there will be a place to race either???? I think Jay said something about wearing blinders??? CR
fmod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sure sounds like a great Solo II combo! Thanks Chris Also I am not trying to scare people, just passing on information that everyone needs to hear! Lack of knowledge and not sharing it is a dangerous thing! BobbyJ #5 Fmod NER SCCA Also, Chuck is correct, by the time F500 goes to 4-stroke neither of us will most likely be driving one! Sure would be nice to go out on a Sunday and see a Solo II event and see several Invaders, Arrows, Novakar, etc. racing around with 4-stroke engines. Not trying to start trouble by saying this, but many of the guys who drive stock street cars with factory mufflers would love to see all the mod cars go away, well at least in New England. Were starting to feel like the bad boy motorcycle gang type because we still want to drive formula cars at Solo II Events!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Reinhardt" To: Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [F500] 2 stroke engines > Couple of key things in this thread please be aware. > Motocross aka the AMA does not "Mandate" 4 cycles, yes there are near > twice the displacement, but everybody knows the power pulse mathematics > from 4 to 2 stroke 1/2. The reason for the dominance of 4 cycles is the > fact that they are faster for a number of reasons. In a motocross bike > it's not about top speed or massive horse power, its corner to corner, or > corner to jump acceleration, and it's also about traction. > However there are lakes that "Mandate" 4 cycle or electric only... > > CR > > Richard Schmidt wrote: > Nice scare tactics - I thought Halloween was over ! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "fmod" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:52 PM > Subject: [F500] 2 stroke engines > > >> Was at the local Honda/Suzuki checking on see if the 2007 bike I ordered > was >> in yet. Would like to ride it a little before the real bad weather. >> >> I was talking to one of the owners, they also sell Yamaha and Bombardier >> watercraft (summer cousins to snowmobile). We got talking about which >> engines we currently use and he asked me what are you guys going to do >> for > new >> engines after 2008 when Bombardier is scheduled to stop making 2-Stroke >> CVT >> equipped Snowmobile's and all their models will by then be replaced with >> 4-Stroke CVT equipped engines. I said don't ask! >> >> This is a rather small shop but they had almost every model of Honda and >> Suzuki motorcycle. The only 2-stroke engine thing he had in the shop was > one >> model of Yamaha Watercraft! Something to again think about. I would say > if >> you go to a former NER f500 divers place of employment in Mass. where >> they >> sell many Bombardier Snowmobile's he would say the same thing. >> >> Not trying to get people pissed off, but time waits for no man and time >> is >> flying by us! We are several years behind the curve. > > > > Motocross is almost fully switched to 4-stroke bikes. > > Only because it is mandated and your didn't mention that the 4-stroke dirt > bikes have engines twice the displacment of the 2-strokes to be > competitive. > > > > Watercraft and outboard motors are not far >> behind! >> >> Starting to talk about it without everyone blowing a fuse is the only way > for >> all you younger people to keep this class going. I and others are near >> the >> end of the game, but still care deeply about a class that has brought us >> so >> much fun and friendship for a reasonable price. Plus you can't put a >> price > on >> all the great people we have met in person or talked to on this site! >> >> Everyone have a good and safe holiday season! >> >> BobbyJ >> #15 Fmod NER SCCA >> >> PS: This is not about 4-stroke bike engines for our class. This is only >> about thinking about 4-stroke CVT equipped Rotax Snowmobile Engines even >> if > it >> takes five (5) or more years of careful planning! > > > > --------------------------------- > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and > get things done faster. --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________ _______________________________________________ F500 mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change options please visit: http://f500.org/mailman/listinfo/f500 *** Please, DO NOT send unsubscribe requests to the mailing list! ***
