Does Q have a photo of his 4 link kit on his website? I havent seen it. If you havent seen crude cars that are still fast, then you havent been solo nats have you? Do our cars have titanium bodied coilovers? Do they have a $1500 Quaife limited slip? Do they have carbon fibre brake rotors? Do they have fuel injection? Do they have 30 aspect ratio tires? No! our cars are crude by nature. Our class F500 was designed to be simple and crude. How will you know if it is wrong? Test and tune, test and tune (its the nature of the beast). I dont care if you buy the Quadrini 4 link kit and have it installed by a world famous racing shop, you still better test and tune it afterwards. Bill Schmidt (not Jan, she is my co-driver)
>>> Chris Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/17/06 7:32 AM >>> Jan, if you look at Q's 4 link, it's 1 1/4 hollow axle, and it has an axle tube around it. There's nothing crude about the fast cars, and how will you know if it's wrong? CR Jan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chris, I understand that you dont want to mickey mouse a race car, however, these cars are the simplest, crudest race cars on the planet. This stuff is not rocket science. If you get the wrong angle or ratio, you re-make the part ormodify it. Secondly, I dont know what type of weird axle you have. Mine is 1 piece solid steel rod (I think it is 1 inch if memory serves). On my car it will be a cake walk, not sure about yours. And yes, a car that is already converted to 4 link is certainly worth more, even if it is an old car. By the way, I believe that this years National Solo Champ car was converted to 4 link by the owner at home with inexpensive home-made parts (just like I was talking about in my previous posting). Bill Schmidt RD Kawi >>> Chris Reinhardt 11/16/06 12:59 PM >>> Bill, talk to Q, but I think if you mckey mouse the 4 link together, you defeat the purpose. Unless the rockers and bellcranks are of the correct ratios, along with the angles of the push rods and shocks, you'll have something different. The axle tube is not centered on the axle, it's short on the drive side, so the axle, shims, brake and drive hubs, wheel hubs, either have to be correct, or compensate for everything, again, defeating the purpose. It's not hard or expensive to put a "4 link" in there, but if you want it right.... I hear yah, $2k on a $2.5k car, but a decent even converted car would be $6-$8k. CR Jan Schmidt wrote: Chris, I dont know about your car, but when I get around to doing mine I will re-use as much as is possible. I will re-use shock cannisters, rockers and bellcranks (If I need new ones, they wont be billet,just plain old steel), axle tube (why on earth would you need a new axle?????or a new tube). The $300 I was talking about involved: bearing flanges, radius rods, rod ends and misc tubing to connect it to the frame, and of course a panhard rod. I am willing to bet I can do it and still have the car lose 10 to 20 lbs of weight. Yes , I am just like the other guy that posted, not puting a $2000 to $2500 4 link on my $2500 car. Would I put one on a $7500 car, hell yes! If it was about 7 years newer, I certainly would. Bill schmidt 88 Red Devil Kawi >>> Chris Reinhardt 11/16/06 6:28 AM >>> The shocks are over $100 a piece, there's billet rockers and bellcranks, the tube the axle sits in is a couple hundred, the axle itself is $100 and change, hubs, drive and brake hubs, disk, caliper, radius rods and rod ends, and knowing it was welded in straight....pricelss.. It adds up pretty quick, I'm doing one myself, if mine wasn't custom, I would had Mike do it and it would have done already... CR Jan Schmidt wrote: I bet you could do your own for about $300 in materials. Bill Schmidt 88 red devil kawi >>> Lee Tilton 11/15/06 4:47 PM >>> Rory, I talked to Mike at Quadrini today about the rear upgrade. He said it is about $2k to put one of his setups in. I really need to see one before I go any farther. Remember, my car is only for autox and for my son (apprentice mechanic at Chrysler) to mess with for learning. I'm not sure I wnat to invest that kind of $ since we have no intention of doing anything more than playing with the car. > > Subject: > Re: [F500] Zink rear suspension upgrade? > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: > Wed, 15 Nov 2006 09:46:34 -0500 > To: > [email protected] > > To: > [email protected] > > >lee if you want to up grade your rearend I have a red deviel that needs up grading also If we can get together I may be intrested in doing both at the same time. share cost and time. should go fast fortwo of us doing it vs just one rory --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510,000 Mortgage for $1,698/mo - Calculate new house payment --------------------------------- Sponsored Link Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro-*Terms --------------------------------- Sponsored Link $420,000 Mortgage for $1,399/month - Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? Find Out! ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________ _______________________________________________ F500 mailing list - [email protected] To unsubscribe or change options please visit: http://f500.org/mailman/listinfo/f500 *** Please, DO NOT send unsubscribe requests to the mailing list! ***
