yes I will send it to eformula car. Jim > > From: Chris Reinhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/03/26 Mon PM 09:40:03 EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: [F500] F500/F600 Proposal > > Yes it got through, can Jim send it to eformulacar??? > > CR > > John Walbran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [F500] F500/F600 Proposal > > > I am not sure whether or not this e mail is getting through to the class so > I will send it again. If you have already recd it I apologize for the > duplicate. > > > In regards to the survivial and growth of the F500 class some major changes > have to occur. I agree it should be a 600cc motorcycle engine with 6 speed > sequential gearbox. I agree with Jack Walbran that the dyno work should be > done so as the speed performance is in line with where we are now with the > 493/494 if not a little stronger. Clint?s 493 is running down top run off > Fords in a straight line. I would also like to see a spec shock spring and I > would take Jack?s suggestion one step further and allow 13" wheels. This > would > bring the Goodyear compounds back into play. The cars need to look larger to > be more appealing to bring in new drivers, and some of us are growing > sideways > and need some more room. All of the larger Formula cars, FSCCA , F1000, FC > are > all in the $50,000.00 range. We need a car that is not much more than what > we > are paying now with no wings as an affordable entry level car and still be > the > best bang for the buck. Our Invaders were over $20,000.00. Of the 7 Mike > sold, 6 were to us. 5 are for sale now and I am not getting any calls which > is > why we are having this discussion. There is no interest from new drivers. > There was a lot of talk on Apex concerning the F1000 because the cost > immediately went too high and eliminated lots of prospective buyers thus the > need for an affordable wingless formula car. Our present manufacturers > without > too many changes could make these changes and do it affordable. A 600cc > Honda > will fit in the Invader with only changing the rear shock location. 13" > wheels > and tires are only 1 or 2 inches more in overall circumference to our 19" > tire. > > Having been active in this class since 1989, even though it is the biggest > bang > for the buck, it has not drawn enough new participants to keep the class > alive > and the reasons for that, as I stated above, the cars are a little too > small, > you cannot shift them and they are extremely high maintenance vehicles. We > work on them constantly while at the track. I have been asked thousands of > times, ?why are you guys always working on your cars?? A massed produced > motorcycle engine, transmission chain drive to a solid axle would make it a > lot > less tedious during the weekends, maybe we would even make it to the social > for > a cold one. > > Going along the F1000 rules, any 600cc motorcycle engine can be used in > stock > configuration with limited modifications, to the oil pan for clearance > purposes > and an open air intake system. I agree the dry sump system is the best but I > presently have a Dsports with a modified oil pan for wet sump and he has run > it > for 2 years with no problem and just received brand new Stohr F1000 with a > Billet oil pan wet sump also. > > Right now you can only buy Formula Vee or Formula 500 for under $20,000.00. > Formula Fords are over $30,000.00 and we go faster than most of them and > then > you jump up to the $50,000.00 range. If we could get a car as fast as the > top > F500 guys are running, which is faster than most of the Fords this packaged > with a low cost mass produced motorcycle motor, the option of a paddle > shifter and no CVT to work on you would attract a lot of newcomers who > cannot > afford $50,000.00 for what is available now. > > Projecting out a few years I see only these Formula Classes at the runoffs, > Formula Vee, this new class F5/6?, F1000, Formula SCCA, FC and FA. Without > some major changes you will be racing against 1, 2 possibly 3 other guys at > regional events only. I have always been a strong supporter of this class > but > there is no fun in it when you are only racing one other person. At our > first > 2 winter nationals we had 3 starters at Sebring and 4 starters at Homestead. > These numbers speak for themselves. At our first regional at Sebring there > were only 3 F500s, 2 of which were Dolphin?s. The 3 F500s out qualified the > Spec Racers but they split started them because there were 45 of them so > they > put us in the back with the 6 Formula Vees. The spec racers are doing > something right. These cars are over $30,000.00 and are a lot slower than > ours > but continue to attract new people. All they do is gas and go all weekend. > For $30,000.00 I would rather be driving an F600. And by the way, the young > driver who works with us , Matt Strand, did pass all 45 of the Spec Racers > to > get the overall win in just his second race. > > As for advertising we have advertised heavily in print as well as e magazine > ?s > and got little response from the karters. They were not interested in F500 > once they turned 16. If they could afford it they went into wings and things > not 500s. All this being said does not end what is presently in place. If > those who want to run what we have now 493/494 CVT thats ok too, but lets > try > something new. The present package only appeals to a few. We need to attract > new drivers. And remember, ?nothing changes if nothing changes?. > > P.S. Check out www.formulajedi.com it?s a F600 class in the U.K. > > Jim Elder > Dolphin Motorsports > > > > --------------------------------- > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. ________________________________ FormulaCar Magazine - A Proud Supporter of Formula 500 The Official Publication of Junior Formula Car Racing Subscribe Today! www.formulacarmag.com or 519-624-2003 _________________________________
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