Hi Joe, The 600 drive train is about 30 lbs heavier. Brian weighed in at the Runoffs at 802 lbs with about 15 lbs ballast. The Rakavon is a fairly heavy car as we do not have anything light on it. It even has a 1/8" al. belly pan.
Thanks ... Jay Novak -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Palmer Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [F500] 600cc Time Line -& Concern . . . dang, Brian must have put on a lot of weight !!!! ;-) Shiny Side Up, Joe Palmer TX Novakar #56 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 7:54 PM Subject: RE: [F500] 600cc Time Line -& Concern >I predict that our Rakavon with the GSXR600 will weigh 825 lbs with the > driver. > > Thanks ... Jay Novak > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris > Reinhardt > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [F500] 600cc Time Line -& Concern > > > If was running a 493 and I was 250# that would be 120# more than my normal > weight of 180# and a 494 min weight. Not optimal, but doable... > > CR > > Chuck Voboril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris- > 50 to 150 pounds extra is something to think about. > > You are in for a little retuning of the suspension. > > Bigger brakes and more tire wouldn't hurt either. > > Jay plopped his new GSXR600 into his chassis and said something like > "Hmm, I think I need shocks" in one of his posts. > > Chuck > > > > > >>From: Chris Reinhardt >>Reply-To: [email protected] >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [F500] 600cc Time Line -& Concern >>Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:18:10 -0700 (PDT) >> >> Here's the deal Chuck, probably for the 15th time.... >> I'm keeping the car as much a F500 as possible for a number of reasons. >> I don't think you can add any more brake in the car with 10" wheels, if >>I change to 13" wheels, it will put the addition strain on the chassis >>that >>you speak of. >> Min weight with the 493 is what? 850# with driver? If the 600 powered >>car gets a 100# handicap that's 900#, not too far off.... >> >> CR >> >>Chuck Voboril wrote: >> Chris , as you break things or continually get outbraked into the >>corners >>then those other things will have to change. >> >>But build it and have a good time. The snow will leave soon-time to get >>out to the garage >> >>Just letting you know what the min weight is. >> >> >>Chuck >> >> >> >> >> >> >From: Chris Reinhardt >> >Reply-To: [email protected] >> >To: [email protected] >> >Subject: Re: [F500] 600cc Time Line -& Concern >> >Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:15:15 -0700 (PDT) >> > >> > Chuck, all those parts are the same..so far, so the additional weight >> > of >> >the motor, and a hunk of lead in the nose will have to surfice... >> > >> > CR >> > >> >Chuck Voboril wrote: >> > Chris, you will indeed be one up on the crowd if you get your chassis >> >developed by running in FS now. >> > >> >The min weight for FS is 750# without driver. >> >That's about 950# with the average 200# driver. >> > >> >That should allow you to incorporate all the extra strengthening needed >>in >> >the chassis to accommodate the larger motor weight and HP/torque, larger >> >axles, larger uprights, and larger brakes. >> > >> >Chuck >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >From: Chris Reinhardt >> > >Reply-To: [email protected] >> > >To: [email protected] >> > >Subject: Re: [F500] 600cc Time Line -& Concern >> > >Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:06:32 -0700 (PDT) >> > > >> > > I myself plan reguardless to get the car homologated as both F5 and >>FS. >> > >When and if the 600 gets the green light, I'll be ready, at least >>partly, >> > >because I'm sure there will be other changes that will need to be >> >done..... >> > > Since FS is the only place we can play for the time being, I would >> > >sugest anybody else that's thinking about it, to do the same so we can >> >all >> > >play together... >> > > >> > > CR >> > > >> > >Steven Dodd wrote: >> > > To all the two stroke fans (myself included) and to those who may >>think >> > >that this whole four stroke movement will put an end to our >> >fun......Well, >> > >I >> > >was reminded by a very neutral party today that even if this ever gets >> > >done, >> > >we won't see this in the GCR before 2009. >> > >So we won't see any big number of cars fielded before 2010. That made >>me >> > >happier than free beer!!! >> > >Maybe it would be wiser for those who are converting their cars to >>600cc >> > >power now, to convert back until we see a rule change. If not, your >> > >presence, or lack thereof, may be the straw that breaks the Camels >> > >Back >> >and >> > >takes us from Nat'l contention. >> > >Come race with us now-then throw in your four stroke after we survive. >> > >SCCA is keeping score on our present participation. >> > >Steven Dodd >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >--------------------------------- >> > >Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? >> > > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. >> > >> > >> > >> >--------------------------------- >> >Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? >> > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? >> Check outnew cars at Yahoo! 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