On Mar 12, 2005, at 8:45 AM, off_world_beings wrote:

> and that ayurved and sthapatyaved
> and the six systems of Indian philosphy are a part of what is
> generally termed  a Vedic tradition.....

First off, I hope you realize that there are several groupings of the 
Six Darshanas.

You are aware that the original word for "veda" was "agama"?

> Saying that early Buddhism was not Vedic, is like saying that
> Protestantism is not Christianity.

I'd tend to agree with the Manimekhalai (a Dravidian work) which (if 
you feel a need to attribute a prior movement to the Dharma) states 
that Buddhism is derived from Jainism. It also gives, from the 
pre-Vedic perspective, where these six darshanas come from. ALL of the 
six prophets of these darshanas existed *before the writing of 
Sanskrit.* All of them.



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