RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?

[mark robert]

From: Vaj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:20 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: soma .. was: New Vedic Translation?   Hi Bob: On Mar 14, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: > 1. The gods rely on humans for Soma, since the gods, not being > enlightened, cannot produce Soma (they also had to drink the nectar > of immortality, Amrita, since they cannot produce that substance > either). It's a free country, until the Natural Law Party takes over, > anyway, so you can regard this as vampirism, but it's just the way > the universe works. I'm sorry but this is total hogwash. Anyone who has taken time to get initiated into some good higher eastern practices knows exactly what is supposed to be going on and where the mistakes are. Basically MMY has tried to create a pure "Vedic" practice, grossly simplified based on inner tantric practices which are connected to "soma". He only vaguely succeeded IMO. Yes humans produce rarified forms of prana during meditation. Yes they are used with other beings and to create holistic communication and circumstances. But not really in the way that this is described (on Trancenet). What is described on Trancenet, if it is authentic TMO teaching, is an aberration, an attempted reconstruction of an alleged "Vedic" practice. Sadly or perhaps happily, there IS no lineal descent of this practice in a Vedic tradition. So they/he made one up. The sad thing is the real teaching on dripping and blazing of soma, etc. are all still preserved and still lead to real enlightenment. But this ain't it. snip   -Vaj -------------------     Vaj,   If you are talking about the Rig Veda, saying that it is the real teaching on Soma (and that it’s external), I agree with you.     But whether you are or not:   IF you equate the Rig Veda’s age with its Vedic importance, THEN you must face up to its most apparent message: THAT Vedic enlightenment was an effect only obtained from the consumption of an elaborately prepared external substance. Was RV-Soma the same as modern TMO-Soma? Many say “no” and try to claim a difference as support for the latter over the former, but that is backward logic. Since TMO-Soma has always been represented as Vedic (by MMY), any criticism against (or distancing from) RV-Soma texts is foolhardy - SINCE the RV is the heart and source of everything Vedic. This would also be true for RV-enlightenment vs TMO-enlightenment. True, the verdict is not yet in on the validity of RV Soma and enlightenment (as it is described in its texts); but any modern versions of those two concepts that claim Vedic validity (and use the same words/names) would naturally be MUCH more vulnerable to baseless-ness.      In other words, you can’t maintain an alliance with a source while criticizing it. Of course such modern alliances are more sophisticated than such blatancy. They discovered translation-spinning as a superior method: “this is what the RV REALLY says”. Such BS! Guys, it’s not hard to read the RV and understand the basics of what it says about enlightenment and Soma: the former was derived from a consumption of the latter and the latter was derived from a preparation of something(s) external from the human body.      -Mark   To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.