--- In [email protected], "Bob Brigante" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > on 3/18/05 11:25 PM, mark robert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > To imply that the research indicates that TM works for 100% of 
> those who
> > > do/try it is a blatant falsehood. Go back to those studies you 
> supplied and
> > > look at those percent figures again, Bob.
> > >  
> > > -mark
> > >
>   
> > I know of TM teachers who died or are dying of alcoholism. Some 
> people have
> > a problem with it no matter how much they meditate.
> 
> ********
> 
> Might take two lifetimes for some...but for most regular 
meditators, 
> bad habits will go in this lifetime. I suspect that most alcoholic 
> meditators are actually poly-drug users, smoking dope, taking 
other 
> pills, etc. -- I have known a few Fairfield TMers who follow this 
> pattern, and there is no way that the subtle bliss of TM can 
survive 
> a determined assault by somebody determined to use drugs despite 
the 
> advice given to initiates to abandon illegal drug use, and just 
stick 
> to booze and tobacco until the lamp of awareness is lit a little 
more 
> brightly.

About 6 months after learning TM I dropped the practice because 
after doing my program the thought of drinking beer was not all that 
appealing. I really liked coming home after a day of pounding nails 
and easing into a nice warm beer buzz but the TM was getting in the 
way so... I dropped it, of course! What are you kidding me? I guess 
the point is that for me intoxication did not seem right sitting 
next to the light of transcendental consciousness. No problem 
though, it only took 15 years of blunting my awareness with 
cigarettes, alcohol and other assorted recreational compounds before 
realizing that one drection put your head in a box and that the 
other way let your head out of the box. The box can feel like a very 
safe and familiar place but it is a holding pattern and sooner or 
later you have to come out and stand in the light.


Rick Carlstrom





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