--- In [email protected], "tomandcindy
traynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Every description that you are using as an indicator of
> someone in Unity is something that happens in the relative.
> The understanding that I keep harping about is not in the
> relative.  It is beyond the relative. It is the understanding
> that arises from Self knowing Self. That understanding 
> happened in the lively portion of the absolute. It
> has nothing to do with what one can or cannot do in the
> relative. There will be many different ways for folks to
> demonstrate power in the relative.  This knowing is beyond
> that and doesn't give a damn what one can or cannot do in
> the relative. How could it? the absolute is that from which
> all relative springs what will happen in the relative will. 

Does this mean the witnessing sleep standard is bogus?

Alex





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